Perpetual Motion Squad: Tue Oct 23

I 'should' have ever mop enchant by raid, I say should because I'm not sure you get the same ammount of rep from shado-pan everyday. But if I get what I got today everyday I will be revered on tuesday

I agree with Mehguy, I've

Elektraqt — Sun, 10/14/2012 - 18:18

I agree with Mehguy, I've attempted the first "boss" with 2 different group (one full herp derp and the other Kobra Kai pug) which sadly wasn't a kill, but it really is simple. And Elapsed your buddy system seems perfect. Ranged/healers if you're chained to someone in melee go to them, wait out the debuff simple as that. I think with a little practice we should be able to do this! Im excited and ready to raid again with you guys :)

not hard

Mehguy — Wed, 10/10/2012 - 12:37

Actually surprised you're not getting through this with a Herp Derp grp.

I think people just arent understanding the fight and are doing shit wrong. This vid explains it perfectly.

1. Stay out of shit, all shit, at all times. (we're already fucked on this one)

2. If you have Jasper chains, stay together for 30 seconds, or be dumb and try to get 15 stacks of the debuff causing "metric ass tons" of damage to the chained people, risking death just to break chains early. Or if you have the dmg reduction debuff to Jasper, spread out, get 15 stacks at greatly reduced dmg and break chains earlier.

3. Cobalt overloads and we get the 90% dmg reduction to his shit, have 1
person run around and clean up the cobalt shard mines on the ground.
If we dont have the dmg reduction, and too many mines are up, designate
someone with bubble, dispersion, etc to clear them up slowly and not get
killed.

4. Tanks taunt bosses, so which ever one is doing its petrified ability gets its energy bar full so it overloads and stops petrifying. Do best NOT to overload a guardian who is not petrifying(may be inevitable), and to not overload guardians back-to-back. Lots of taunting and communication.

4 simple steps to success...

so, rather than take my word,

Elapsed — Wed, 10/10/2012 - 14:15

so, rather than take my word, that were discussing it, rather than take my word the tanks are doing their jobs. You continue to argue. How about you do me a solid, TRY IT AS WELL! I've been seeking groups now to get a taste for the fight. The DAMAGE incomming is a LOT and the only people in the attempts who have survived the longest aren't just those who don't stand in things, no they are the people that have some sort of mitigation. The druid tank seems to be doing particularly well along with the DK. Which tells me people don't have enough gear so the bosses arent dropping fast enough. IT's a particularly long fight and the DPS aspect seems to be CRUCIAL! hence why the trash right in the door is a gear check as well (how fast you can burn it before it turns you to stone, the only mechanic)

Also now I've talked to Barf about it, and his group is on the second boss now but also atested to the gear requirements of the fight.

I'm no longer commenting on the topic of difficulty of the fight. I'm Simply stating WE NEED GEAR, no ifs ands or buts. And I'd appreciate it if you did the same, because arguing at this point is only making me frusterated.

Just note

Mehguy — Wed, 10/10/2012 - 18:11

Matter of fact, I am taking your word for it since you HAVE been in there.

Just that I was surprised that a Herp Derp grp (including you) hadn't gotten it. I was under the impression it was a random grp of people (almost a pug) of people/friends you knew, that went in.

I never said it wasn't a gear check, nor that we didnt need more gear.

Stating my opinion that I'm think some of it was not understanding the fight to its full extent, therefore making mistakes (doing shit wrong). Even though some fights (aka Patchwerk and now this) are gear checks, execution of said fights are also paramount.

Also I pointed out what appeared to me to be the 4 key things to take from the video.

Try not to get too testy/stressed this time around Tom, its only the first boss of the first raid and you're already losing 1/2 your shit before our raid even begins.

Outsider's view looking in

Shihli — Wed, 10/10/2012 - 18:35

Outsider's view looking in -

Comments like your last sentence never, ever, ever help. Just putting that out there.

I've now gone in twice to

Elapsed — Tue, 10/09/2012 - 22:36

I've now gone in twice to Mogu'shan Vaults with a full Guild (Herp Derp) 10 man. The very first fight is a gear check to say the very least. I only have a couple of epics (only one from LFR) and I'm at 467 now.

Let's gear up, let's ramp up.

Here's the Strat for 10 man StoneGuard (been updated since live because of post Beta changes)

Tanks, we really need you to fully comprehend what's going on here

DPS/Heals we need to be coming up with a strat for the chains. The best one I've seen and tried thus far is the buddy system, if you get chained to someone, you become their shadow! if dps chains to heals the dps moves, if heals or dps to tanks, heals and dps move to tanks.

http://youtu.be/zb9LSvpiQbI?hd=1

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