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Obbat lvl 85 surv/bm hunter

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Obbat — Sun, 02/27/2011 - 12:43

Character Info
Name: 
Obbat
Server: 
Gorgonnash
Race: 
Draenai
Class: 
Hunter
Role: 
DPS
General Questions
Which days are you available for organized guild events? (Raids, RBGs, etc): 
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
Friday
Saturday
Sunday
UI
Upload UI: 
Which addons do you consider essential and why?: 
i dont mind them...i use whatever is needed
PvE
Raid Experience: 
have done all raids/instances up to cata...have done a few instances in cata but to be honest no raids because my guild dont raid or run instances..so having to pug kinda sucks....i did great dps when i did raid and am very reliable
PvP
PvP Experience: 
i dont say anything...just keep killing until it ends
Is PvP your primary focus?: 
if needed, i would love to
Personal
What timezone are you in?: 
georgia
Tell us a little about yourself.: 
friendly, respectful, helpful
Open/Closed: 
Closed

Grats on your G Invite Tab.

Alprazalam — Sat, 03/05/2011 - 13:51

Grats on your G Invite Tab.  Closing.

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Grasen briefly went over some

Derchlon — Sun, 02/27/2011 - 16:37

Grasen briefly went over some of the important things.  I disagree with him about BM on this, however.  BM can be perfectly viable, especially since the Aspect of the Hawk buff.  BM gets 25% extra attack power additionally from the Aspect, making BM damage during BW very very good.  You will find BM to be forgiving in battlegrounds, but any arenas outside of 2s will be very challenging.

Before I go into the next section on spell pen, I need to inform you that spell pen DOES NOT in any way affect trap resists.  That being said:

Things you need to change:

Cloak enchant (use 70 spell pen here, and change one of your 50 spell pen gems into a 20 spell pen and 20 resilience gem).  This will give you 190 spell pen, which will be good enough as survival to keep you from doing 25% less damage on resistance targets.  You lose 50 crit, but the exchange is much better.

Cloak (yes, change your cloak.  Crit is way better than mastery right now for all specs, so a cape of cruelty would be best).

Chest enchant (use 40 resilience to chest.  resil is just too good to use stats.)

Meta gem:  If you are having trouble with roots/snares, you have master's call.  I think the agility/3% crit damage gem would be a better choice.  If roots and snares are a constant issue for you, you might want to glyph master's call instead of trap launcher.

Head and Shoulder enchants are fine, but the resilience ones will probably out weigh them in the end.  I haven't switched over to the resilience ones yet either, but I probably will.

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Your survival spec appears to be a raiding spec with some screwed up glyphs so I'll give you a pass for now.  If you pvp as survival post below and I'll give you a break down on how to be a better SV hunter.

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my spec

Obbat — Sun, 02/27/2011 - 19:31

hey thank you for the input..any help is appreciated...i would prefer to pvp as surv so if u can help, please do

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Maybe I can help.

Aeolyn — Sun, 02/27/2011 - 23:45

I PVP as BM (just BGs and 2s, but the spec plays well there). It works fine in an environment suited to it.

 

If you want to PVP as Surv, as you mentioned, I'll offer what I can. Derc is pretty much -the- go to guy for Hunter thoughts these days though.

 

At any rate, my spec adjustments if I were going to PVP as Surv would be as follows:

 

2 points in Survival Tactics. With health totals being what they are now we're a lot more about control than just bursting people down (generally). You can't control people terribly well if you can't trap them. So traps not being resisted is pretty flippin' important. I also think Entrapment is a decent talent since it lets you stop people trying to close a gap between you using Snake Trap. But that's a lot more of a playstyle thing and not something I'd insist everyone do. It's nice to be able to have Snake as a potential stopper in the event that your freezing trap gets broken or otherwise fails you and you need to get someone off.

 

I don't like Serpent Spread in a PVP build. You're just going to render other targets unCCable. I'm also not really sold on Sniper Training. You're rarely going to hold still. And at that point you're just taking it for the Kill Shot crit chance. If you're okay with that then take it. I'd prefer something like Mirrored Blades. Even if its just one spare point: a 50% chance to make someone smack themselves with their own spell is a great trick to have.

 

Oh, and Black Arrow will never do any real damage. It's very slow to do damage anyways and can be removed easily. I wouldn't even take it in a pure PVP spec. I'd rather go into another tree and take, like, One With Nature. Or Spirit Bond. Or Bestial Discipline. Or all of those.

 

My glyph advice won't be too specific: But I would have Explosive, Kill, probably Master's Call. And Raptor Strike. Seriously. Raptor Strike is the best glyph ever. EVER. I have a mouseover Raptor Strike button on my mouse and I press it all the time. I even smack PVE bosses when they're going to pusle damage that I can't avoid.

The defense it offers is obscene. I literally kill other Hunters as BM by getting up in their face, Raptor Strike spamming at them, and letting my BM Hunter pet eat them alive. It flat out destroys Surv and Marks Hunters who can't shoot me but my pet can still ruin them.

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Aeolyn pretty much hit the SV

Derchlon — Mon, 02/28/2011 - 00:29

Aeolyn pretty much hit the SV nail on the head there, for the most part.

Here is a recommended SV build that would work really well for you: 

http://www.wowhead.com/talent#ccbbZcZIrGcMGMRo:RsmVdfMmz

Honestly, Glyphs of Serpent Sting, and Raptor Strike are optional.  You may prefer to have cheaper traps with Glyph of Trap Launcher, or you may find Glyph of Rapid Fire or Glyph of Arcane Shot more useful.  I prefer Glyph of Serpent Sting.

Keep in mind, that Glyph of Raptor Strike is only useful if you remember to USE Raptor Strike.  Another idea for use instead of Raptor Strike or Trap Launcher, is Glyph of Freezing Trap.  It can be really fun.

Grasen's picture

for surv pvp the spec derch

Grasen — Mon, 02/28/2011 - 05:48

for surv pvp the spec derch linked is dead on.   entrapment and mirrored blades are a must imo for surv pvp.     to be honest though,   MM is tearing surv up right now...imo

Derchlon's picture

reflecting Lavabursts,

Derchlon — Mon, 02/28/2011 - 12:31

reflecting Lavabursts, sheeps, hexes, and Fears are the only reason I would pvp as survival.

Watching dumb shaman nuke themselves to death is just too much fun.

Grasen's picture

look at my marks spec,     

Grasen — Mon, 02/28/2011 - 18:29

look at my marks spec,      give that a try and lemme know what yah think.

Obbat's picture

thanks

Obbat — Tue, 03/01/2011 - 19:43

i really appreciate all the help and suggestions...thanks alot =)

Grasen's picture

I'm gonna assume you PvP as

Grasen — Sun, 02/27/2011 - 14:08

I'm gonna assume you PvP as BM as your seuv spec would have a few gapeing holes in it for pvp.   I would suggust trying marks for pvp.  I think you may find it stronger than BM .   Outside that, for PvP I would suggust the honor enchants for helm and shoulders over the ones your useing.   3k honor total for both,

Keyadin's picture

Tab is my

Keyadin — Sun, 02/27/2011 - 12:52

Tab is my Arena/leveing/Dailies partner. She is very dependable and will help in anyway possible. She knows several people in guild already.

 

LOL @ the missing raid for child birth... you were back raiding like 2 days later and had had a C-section... pretty sure u werent supposed to be doing that!!!

 

 

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