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25 Man Raid Hunters: Read this. (Hunters vs Will of the Emperor)

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Aeolyn — Wed, 02/13/2013 - 19:06

Hunters have a unique capacity to bring an absurd number of buffs/debuffs to their raid groups. This is a strength that we have in spades in our 25 man raid that we are not using to potential. I want this to change.

Both Will of the Emperor and Elegon have adds that need to die ASAP. Debuffs like +physical and +magic damage taken are invaluable in situations like these; but it's wasteful to make another raider blow a global on something like Faerie Fire or Curse of Elements to make it happen. It's also unrealistic to assume that every single add would have a spellcaster ready to throw these debuffs even if it was preferable to do so.

Our pets, on the other hand, can provide these debuffs quickly, often, and without interrupting our shooting. This adaptability is the strength of our pets and something we can use to pick up slack on adds during Will of the Emperor.

Go out there and tame some pets. Bench Mr. Fluffy and let us collectively throw debuffs around like crazy. Everyone's damage will go up and we will all get more uptime on the bosses. That's huuuuge.

Damage debuff pets:

  • +Magic damage taken pets: Wind Serpent, Dragonhawk
  • +Physical damage taken pets: Raptor, Tallstrider

We offer more than this, though. We can also stun, bind, and snare the Rages that spawn. Less time our caster friends spend retreating from monsters chasing them = more damage. This also means less reliance on focus-hungry moves like Binding Shot to stop our enemies; translating into more shot damage for us.

Mob stopping debuff guide:

  • Snare: Crocolisk, Chimaera (Exotic pet, superior snare that applies at range)
  • Stun: Bat, Shale Spider (Exotic, superior due to faster cooldown), Crane (Might break on damage; needs testing)
  • Bind: Spider, Silithid (Exotic, superior bind -- it also deals damage)

The exotic versions of these abilities tend to be better; but assume you're BM. If you play SV spec the regular versions are perfectly viable and still a huge boon to our raid.

We all have our favorite pets but your wolves and spirit beasts are not helping the raid in an optimal manner for these add heavy fights.

ADDITIONALLY: Make sure your pets are in Ferocity mode and Growl and Cower are turned OFF. You do not want your pet wasting globals processing a move Cower when he could instead be applying helpful debuffs or biting people. Make sure things like Rabid are enabled.

We're doing good on Will. Now we need only to optimize our raid to get the kill. Tons of Hunters is one of our strength and it's time to play that to its fullest.

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Grasen's picture

I want the BM's bringing the

Grasen — Fri, 02/15/2013 - 18:21

I want the BM's bringing the snare stuns and binds.   Lets hear from Drenalin, Ghost, and Diyana which pets yall are going to bring please.  

Me and caylee will bring the + magic and + physical.   Caylee post here and let me know which you are bringing and I will grab the other. 

Also  A not to the hunters,  Yall need to be checking into the site daily. I can see that Caylee and Drenalin have yet to read this in 2 days.  figuring things like this out only works if we work as a team.  Something we can't do if you havent even read the post.   

edit: ^ this applies to everyone,  not just the hunters 

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re:I want the BM's bringing the

Ghostess — Sun, 02/17/2013 - 19:58

I will be brining my Chillwind Chimaera, Elementium Spinner,
Centipaar Sandreaver and drakuru Raptor.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Also available are Cobra, Turtle, Core Hound, Crocklisk,
Spore Bat.

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I know Diyana has a chimera handy; she was using it last raid.

Aeolyn — Fri, 02/15/2013 - 22:02

So there's one snare in place.

garreth's picture

Updated formatting.

garreth — Fri, 02/15/2013 - 17:00

Updated formatting.

Grasen's picture

amazing ideas,   i'll input

Grasen — Thu, 02/14/2013 - 19:47

amazing ideas,   i'll input on this this weekend when i am not so exausted.

Atar's picture

I love hunter talk.

Atar — Thu, 02/14/2013 - 08:11

I love hunter talk.

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Hunters; Monday!

Aeolyn — Wed, 02/13/2013 - 22:13

Monday night I demand to see at least one physical damage debuff pet and one magical damage debuff pet in our raid. I also demand that they be on the adds.

Your spider's CC abilities don't help any if it spends the whole fight biting the boss's ankles.

garreth's picture

How many hunters in the raid?

garreth — Thu, 02/14/2013 - 00:04

How many hunters in the raid?

Elapsed's picture

on average 6, usually 7

Elapsed — Thu, 02/14/2013 - 00:56

on average 6, usually 7

garreth's picture

MotherOfGod

garreth — Thu, 02/14/2013 - 09:18

MotherOfGod

Aeolyn's picture

Usually like six...

Aeolyn — Thu, 02/14/2013 - 00:23

Usually like six...

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