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Cyzin — Tue, 02/11/2014 - 13:40

Greetings fellow members of the Dk master race.

I am creating this thread to serve as a consolidated resource for the best class is the game, and the changes that we will be undergoing in the new expansion.

 

I hope many of you will see this and strive to contribute useful information if yu are able to.

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The current level 100 DK

Aeolyn — Thu, 02/13/2014 - 15:21

The current level 100 DK talents are as disappointng as the current level 90 ones. There is absolutely nothing here for tanks. Unless the passives we earn as Blood while leveling from 91 to 100 are interesting I can't imagine caring enough about my DK to want to continue with it in WoD.

Personally I feel the level

Cyzin — Fri, 02/14/2014 - 11:32

Personally I feel the level 100 talents are good because we might be able to choose using personal preference rather than having to switch them out every encounter.

Also, getting more of the LK's abilities is awesome.

I guess we'll have to wait and see what abilities get bonuses to choose which to "replace" with a 100 talent

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Talents were never really

Aeolyn — Fri, 02/14/2014 - 18:33

Talents were never really about choice they were about optimization. If there isn't a clear winner depending on your role/spec or at the very least situational winners then it's a failure.

The DK choices are already abysmal. Tier 1 may as well simply having Roiling Blood. Tier 4 = Death Pact. Tier 5 effectively doesn't matter and is a frontrunner for worst talent tier of any class in the game.

Sindragosa's Breath is trash tier. If you're Frost you're better off using Howling Blast for cleave and you need your runic power for more important things. Blood has the same issue. Rune Strike > everything as a runic power button. This COULD be a good ability but the fact that it requires runic power utterly ruins it. There's a reason nobody uses Conversion in tier 4 and the same issue applies.

As near as I can tell, this talent exists for PVP situations where you can stun someone in the cone and pop a bunch of CDs to wreck them before you run out of runic power.

Defile is a slightly improved D&D. Woo.

Necrotic Plague is the one hope for the level 100 tier, depending on how many stacks it can build up to. If we make some assumptions (like it doesn't have its stacks reset to 1 when reapplied rotationally by the DK AND it can stack 15 or more times) then it will trump Defile as a single target damage ability.

 

Depending on how Plague is tuned it will either flatly beat or be completely inferior to Defile. And Breath was never in the contest to begin with. Hopefully these talents will be changed in beta because as it stands now there will only be a single functional choice for PVE.

 

Comment format

Cyzin — Tue, 02/11/2014 - 13:45

Until we get a new website I propose that any information that you want to contribute to this thread gets posted in comment form.

 

If you have a link then you would put it here, like so

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10496969656

 

Then maybe say a few things about the link you posted and why you feel it's interesting or important to the DK class.

i.e.

This link describes the level 100 talents and the benefits and drawbacks of using them, tldr; defile is the best talent and you should just choose it automatically in its current implementation.

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New website!  What blasphemy

Shihli — Thu, 02/13/2014 - 07:36

New website!  What blasphemy is this.

There's been talk of a new

Cyzin — Thu, 02/13/2014 - 14:10

There's been talk of a new website. Hopefully it happens so "We have a website?" isn't the only thing people say about the downfall website.

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Who'd make/maintain it?  And

Shihli — Thu, 02/13/2014 - 19:25

Who'd make/maintain it?  And you do of course know what the joke about "we have a website" actually stems from right?

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Allow me to fully clear this

Elapsed — Thu, 02/13/2014 - 19:51

Allow me to fully clear this up, because I greatly feel this has pulled away form the intentions of discussing Death Knights in the coming xpac.

 

There has been great discussion about the always coming updated website from Garreth. Not a new website all together but many were polled for what features would be appreciated or used.

And while MANY don't know the full joke about "We have a website?" it's come down to the amalgam joke of attempting to get people to use the website for discussion and conversation.

If we want to start a new convo about web design or old Downfall jokes, I simply request a change of forum venue to the Guild Discussion forums and not the DKs in Wod

... but the points are

Ardea — Fri, 02/14/2014 - 16:16

... but the points are broken.

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