LF1M - 3/19
Raid Zone:
Tempest Keep - The Eye
Let's 1.2.3. this and get back in for some Kael action...I'm still itchin for a Kael downing!
"I couldn't tell I had the debuff, my whole screen was blue!" WTB more epic quotes this week...lol
Wed, 03/19/2008 - 11:00
Wed, 03/19/2008 - 15:00
| 10 individuals signed up |
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| Atar |
| Aidin |
| Frollo |
| Grovinski |
| casecold |
| Derchlon |
| pulga |
| Makafis |
| Chief Tenbears |
| watchesup |

So, during al'ar i saw a
Pettingzoo — Thu, 03/20/2008 - 12:11So, during al'ar i saw a string of -^xxxx^ (crushing blows). Looking back at the parses, he only crushed me 4 times during the entire fight...and they were all one after the other. A 15% chance to be crushed, and I got crushed 4x in a row =(
WTB: block/parry plx.
Oh, and one other thing real
Shihli — Thu, 03/20/2008 - 11:08Oh, and one other thing real quick:
1) Your time spent dps'ing is a bit lower than it ought to be. Based on the parses your active time on Al'ar was 54% spent dps'ing, meaning you either spent a lot of time twiddling your thumbs, spent a lot of time running to mobs, or the mobs genuinely died REALLY fast.
That said, if you are going to be using those boots for a while, I'd highly recommend a Boar's Speed (9 Stamina, Movement Speed Increase) or a Cat's Speed (6 Agility, Movement Speed Increase) enchant on them. Not only will you get some stats but it's been theorycrafted and "proven" that in many cases, higher movement speed leads to better overall dps.
The less time you spend getting to your target, the more time you have to kill it, basically.
I'll try and have a 1 on 1
Enixa — Thu, 03/20/2008 - 11:08I'll try and have a 1 on 1 session with him later today. Work time later!
Looking over the parses and
Shihli — Thu, 03/20/2008 - 11:03Looking over the parses and an armory link to Pux's gear ... I can see a few things that could change.
1) [Jewel of Charismatic Mystique] - need to dump this. It's not really worth using, considering it's an "On Use:" effect; and any threat-reduction you need really comes from spec and being smart (aka stop attacking if your threat is high). Recommended replacement: [Bloodlust Brooch] (41 Badges) or [Abacus of Violent Odds] (Mechanar).
2) Gear - I like to have a whole mess of strength and agility on my gear. You have a lot of PvP gear, which is good for misc. fill-ins, but it has a lot of wasted stats on non-raid stats (very heavy on stamina, resilience, and attack power - not a lot of strength, agility [which I prefer over crit rating], hit rating, or set bonuses). Try to sneak into some guild Karazhan raids and get some T4.
3) Hit rating. From spec you already have +9% to hit, but with dual-wielding you should try to get more than 58 additional hit rating. I like to ride right around 100 hit rating. At the moment, Luchs is at 115, and our premiere raiding Enhancement Shaman (Turth) is at 130-ish.
4) I dunno what your shock/ability rotation is, here's what I tend to roll with on my shaman, Luchs:
a) Stormstrike every time available; if Stormstrike debuff is active on target, Earth Shock every time it is available
b) If no Stormstrike debuff active, Flame Shock instead of Earth Shock every other time your shock CD is available (that is, alternate between the two).
c) In the event of AoE pulls, toss a Magma Totem down and pop Chain Lightning a few times while meleeing.
Check Luchs's armory for details about my spec and gear. He's right around where you are at, gear-wise, and when I'm in Atar's raid I typically hang out in the top 6 dps the whole night. Also check the parses, see if I'm doing anything you aren't.
Dufe...could it be
starstalker — Thu, 03/20/2008 - 10:31Dufe...could it be because so many mobs in the game are classified as paladins?
/flings poop at Garreth
Funny...along the same lines
Aidin — Thu, 03/20/2008 - 10:20Funny...along the same lines of Pettingzoo being colored white on my smart rez...thinks he's a priest or a mob maybe??? Wonder if there's a connection somewhere to the weirdness that is Zoo on the MT windows...
WWS has a habit of thinking
Dufe — Thu, 03/20/2008 - 10:11WWS has a habit of thinking any Pallies or Feral Druids are mobs, especially Atar.
I think I got MC'ed so many
Aidin — Thu, 03/20/2008 - 10:03I think I got MC'ed so many times and tried to club and consecrate you all to death the parses assumed I was a bad guy. lol Thanx for fixin Dufe.
And Grov I totally feel your pain, as a paladin you are affected by the silences as much as the stuns. I'm gonna be pushing cleanses and judgements till people are sick of me saying it!
Tenbears, great numbers on
Atar — Thu, 03/20/2008 - 09:28Tenbears, great numbers on Solarian. Let's see more of those high numbers on Kael tonight!!!
Hmmm, you're part right
Dufe — Thu, 03/20/2008 - 09:11Hmmm, you're part right Aidin: You were on the parse . . . as a mob. Got it fixed, retry the link above again.
<3 for mentioning that
Grovinski — Thu, 03/20/2008 - 08:50<3 for mentioning that aidin. It can become a big issue for me at times.
not everybody can be a rock
Frollo — Thu, 03/20/2008 - 08:44not everybody can be a rock star like aidin :D
frollo
"I'm gettn hitched Bitch!"
Hey Dufe...something wrong
Aidin — Thu, 03/20/2008 - 05:51Hey Dufe...something wrong with parses...either that or I did so little healing the parse gods said "NO YOU CAN NOT BE ON THIS REPORT!"
A note to all paladins...The WoW gods gave u Cleanse...It's meant to be USED!!! There are lots of stuns on tanks which = no threat = pwned raiders = BAD. Plus the silences, if you don't get silenced...cleanse your fellow healers guys!!!
The margin between myself at 46 cleanses and the next cleanser being at 10 = no bueno.
http://wowwebstats.com/ky5zng3t6a5r1?ab=106
Parses:
Dufe — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 21:46Parses: http://wowwebstats.com/jrhviyr4o1xai
I'll be sure Atar knows
Aidin — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 16:12I'll be sure Atar knows Dufe.
Makafis and Shaw both confirmed they will be online and ready to rock as well. Should have an great pool of healers tonight.
I may be just a smidge late
Dufe — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 15:13I may be just a smidge late (6:30-6:40ish), but I'm parked at the summoning stone with everything I need, so if someone will save me a spot I shouldn't hold us up at all.
Also, Pux (guild app enh sham) will be ready to go if we have room for him. When I ran into him online today, he was already configuring all of the raid addon pack mods, buying raid mats, and said he planned on re-reading the strats before raid.
Oh and Gares, given the
Dragon — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 14:25Oh and Gares, given the choice between GHowl or HotN. Id take HotN.
A. im a human so i get the free expertise
B. 8 Str, 8 Str, 4 Str 6 Stam that can be added as well :D Plus if nothing else it is the most pally looking weapon in game atm :D
LFM High King?
Edit: Not to mention those lovely bracers the King has :P
~Legendary Nobody
Garreth there are multiple
Dragon — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 14:21Garreth there are multiple sites on the subject. I commonly refer to some stickies on the official paladin forums. As far as crafted 2her v drops, Gorehowl and Hammer of the Narru (which actually is extremely good imo minus the spelldamage) are both ret viable till others begin to drop. Barring being unable to get one of those I am trying to lose my way to the S1 2h Sword atm.
As far as blacksmithing goes, I have it on my other paladin. And although it is extremely useful, with current raids/drops available (even the 2h off the last boss of ZA, which yes i know is awhile off) means that due to the time required to level blacksmithing it would likely not be max use in the longrun. The goggles themselves from Engineering will last me a lot longer than the 2h from blacksmithing would.
As far as haste for alliance paladins: We will not actively go after a piece of gear just because it has haste on it. However just because an item has haste on it does not mean we will not take it. However, I believe this is enough for this thread, I am off to make a blog now :D
~Legendary Nobody
Aherm, Gorehowl, ftw?
Gares of War — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 14:16Aherm, Gorehowl, ftw?
You get a 2h that allows you
garreth — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 14:13You get a 2h that allows you to step into a 25 man raid. There isn't a legit 2h anywhere near your crafted hammer/sword until fathomlord.
Well, I would suggest asking
Gares of War — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 13:49Well, I would suggest asking people who have nethers to make some SSC/TK dps plate. Granted, I can only think of red belt of battle. Paladins do not get much use from haste gear right?
Garreth lies, blacksmithing
Epatrick — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 13:48Garreth lies, blacksmithing pays for nothing and is full of "i leveled did all these quests and all I got for it was a silly sword that I may be able to upgrade" Go engineering imo, full of win, loveliness and might I say a sexy transporter malfunction.
Post it in your blog on the
Shihli — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 12:59Post it in your blog on the site - everyone gets a blog spot.
Yes I willingly admit I need
Dragon — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 11:59Yes I willingly admit I need more gear. I need to get in a Gruul pug as High King has 2 very useful items for me. The catch is the fact that for pve I will be wearing more warrior gear than paladin gear. And although the pvp gear is nice, school constraints prevent non stop grinding (like I did last week to get to 70).
Long story short, I am gonna be looking up lists of PvE gear (and craftables) that I can use to augment pvp stuff. Dunno where I should post it though.
~Legendary Nobody
Also... go Blacksmithing
garreth — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 13:44Also... go Blacksmithing man. Just do it, it pays off in the long run.
Would be the perfect subject
garreth — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 13:43Would be the perfect subject of a blog post.
WoW Insider had a great series on early ret gear, check them out here:
http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/11/the-light-and-how-to-swing-it-ret-g...
http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/25/the-light-and-how-to-swing-it-ret-g...
I think you'll get a kick out of it.
I will be here for the next
Grovinski — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 10:16I will be here for the next two nights. it's only from saturday to next saturday that I am unreliable.
I'm not making any promises
Atar — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 09:55I'm not making any promises that anyone will get in. We'll have to see who's online and prepared for raid.
Dragonspear needs HUGE upgrades. I'm not taking him in with greans. Hell, he just dinged 70 a few days ago. Let's give him some time.
I'd agree with Grasen here,
Shihli — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 09:49I'd agree with Grasen here, if only based on gear. Dragonspear needs a few Karazhan runs at least to get him up to speed with pre-T5 loot.
However, in the event Ataraxia is hard up for dps, he's still an option : /
Vox's name on the server is
garreth — Wed, 03/19/2008 - 09:17Vox's name on the server is now "Pux". He's 100% in tonight so you guys have a hard hitting enchancement Shammy. Give him a try out tonight before we consider ginviting.
Seth the druid is available for hots and Mendaren can play Captnopants if you need the heals.
This makes your healers: Aidin, Warion, Nr, Seth, Carno, Capt, Tenbears, Makafis, Shawdogg. A very good pool of healers.
Non-regular DPS options tonight: Ret Pally: Dragonspear (still needs much gear), Pyrael, DPS Warrior: Leghumper, Rogue: Escrima.
Are you guys having Tunkh tank or will Everstar be there?