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SSC Night 2...Let's clear tonight

Thu, 04/03/2008 - 11:00
Thu, 04/03/2008 - 15:22
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Morica
Coryni
Captnopants
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Derchlon
Shinso
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everstar
Grovinski
Desteran
Roguered
Olorien
Dragon
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Dufe's picture

Tenbears was indeed in the

Dufe — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 11:07

Tenbears was indeed in the tanking group for grounding on Vashj.

Dufe's picture

Not 100% sure why everyone

Dufe — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 11:05

Not 100% sure why everyone is complaining so much about the Fathomlord kill from last night.

Ours: http://wowwebstats.com/rzn11iptaxoyq?s=6403-6757

vs.

12/4 Hamfist: http://wowwebstats.com/lgfq12do4why5?s=8807-9153

vs.  

1/18 Hamfist: http://wowwebstats.com/5shogojhqfqyc?s=6984-7386 

Our kill from last night was a new raid dps record for the guild (for this boss), although some of this was due to lower dps time in the calculation, you'll find that we were still very close (within seconds) to having the lowest total time to kill.  Also, our presense looks great, I only see 2 dead, and those aren't until 70%+.

I agree that we need to work on dps times on this and other fights, but the dps itself was perfectly fine. (And actually, most of the raid was on par with the 1/18 kill for dps time as well.)  Now Leo, that one needed some work . . .

Gares of War's picture

I didn't count Vashj.  That

Gares of War — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 10:47

I didn't count Vashj.  That fight, they are no where near WF totem. 

saedo's picture

Phase 1 could've had it. 

saedo — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 10:50

Phase 1 could've had it.  Though with absolutely none I assumed he was moved to the tank group for the grounding totem. 

 

Enixa's picture

Ah, so used to seeing it 50+

Enixa — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 10:26

Ah, so used to seeing it 50+ times didn't go all the way down, he was only in there for fathom then.

saedo's picture

Windfury Attack on Leo:

saedo — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 10:31

Windfury Attack on Leo: http://wowwebstats.com/rzn11iptaxoyq?ab=102&s=3519-4022

Windfury Attack on Trash: http://wowwebstats.com/rzn11iptaxoyq?ab=102&s=3519-4022

None on Vashj.

Gares of War's picture

Nope, tenbears was in the

Gares of War — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 10:22

Nope, tenbears was in the melee group.  Check buffs on parses

Enixa's picture

Unless I'm reading this the

Enixa — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 10:13

Unless I'm reading this the wrong way, they don't have WF. Tenbears is prolly in the healer group for totems thus windfury is NOT being dropped. PArses don't have any buffs to "WindFury Attack"

saedo's picture

Windfury Attack:

saedo — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 10:22

Windfury Attack: http://wowwebstats.com/rzn11iptaxoyq?s=6403-6757&ab=102

saedo's picture

Hmm from what I can tell

saedo — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 10:06

Hmm from what I can tell from the melee, it looked like Barqs and Judgedredd were kicking/pummelling the priest and far far away from the windfury goodness and other assorted goodies for 1/2 the fight. Maybe tailor the groups a bit more based on where ppl will be for most of the fight. Like BM hunter buffs goes like across the room.

Gares of War's picture

Well, I may be a simply city

Gares of War — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 09:52

Well, I may be a simply city lawyer, but I do declare that Gares owns without windfury.

 The Dark Lord knows I never get it :D

Agoney's picture

By Compairson, here is the

Agoney — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 09:43

By Compairson, here is the earliest hamfist kill available of a fathomlord kill on WWS. It's from 12.4, so we were similiar geared, altho I think we were still lacking a Kael kill at this time.

http://wowwebstats.com/lgfq12do4why5?s=8807-9153

Also, you'd have to look at group setup. Does lf1m stack more groups for healer benefit, or dps benefit (I, being biased of course, favors stacking DPS except for a few fights, ie, council).  

Anyways, DPS looks very low for that fight. Also seems theres either a lot of people dieing or not getting enough time on the boss to dps. Just a few things to look at :P 

Aidin's picture

I have to say I agree with

Aidin — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 08:24

I have to say I agree with bitchface and jackass, they are 100% right.

We've been talking about this for months and months and months.  Not sure how much clearer we can make it.  If you are one of those ppl who need to step it up...FIGURE IT OUT!  Shinso was one of those people, he respeced, he regemmed, he cussed, he theorycrafted, he cussed some more...and now he's above 1000!!!!!  It's doable people...get on it! 

garreth's picture

Ok, this almost killed me I

garreth — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 08:56

Ok, this almost killed me I was laughing so hard:

"I have to say I agree with bitchface and jackass, they are 100% right."

 At this point, we're really talking about TIME on target, not just gear/gems/talents.  TIME on target is a close approximation of "skill", I guess, in that it indicates that you were able to burn down what needed to be burnt down as fast as possible.  Gear up, of course, but SPEED and REACTION TIMES because more important at this level of content.  

Vashj, which LF1M will be facing Saturday, is an excellent test of TIME vs. just gear.  There's so much target switching and reaction and adaptation that your "skilled" players will outshine your simply "geared" players.

Fathomlord tests this to some extent too.  I see Watches at 1318 dps, Zifter at 951 and Cory at 498?  Same class, different specs of course, but that is a MASSIVE difference in performance.  DPS times were the inverse of the dps.  What happened here?  We have really high dps TIME from Cory (good!) but reallly low dps (blarg!).  It looks like she was on the priest, so I'm assuming that she was in charge of Tongues.  But, you can still absolutely annihilate the priest since that's your only target! I remember Jobs having that priest almost dead by the time we got to it back in the day!

Overall, dps has gone up in LF1M: Judge is breaking 1k consistently, Case is a monster, Dufe & Watches are HUGE casters, the rogues are staying above 1k now too.  There's still some "newish" people that are soooooo close to really being some great contributors.  It's literally just familiarity of encounter at this point from them.  People like Shinso are close, they just need to absolutely go balls to the wall and never let up.  I can literally see Shinso "backing off" on these parses.  NEVER BACK OFF UNTIL YOU'RE OVER 120% OF YOUR MT'S THREAT!!!

 

Shihli's picture

If Jasmynn is resident

Shihli — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 08:13

If Jasmynn is resident bitchface, I guess that makes me resident jackass!

I pretty much echo Jasmynn's sentiments.  There's no reason that your dps should be anywhere below 800-900 dps while parsed.  Use food, use flasks, use scrolls, use weapon oils.

If you come in with crap dps and expect to down anything in BT/MH, you're wasting Atar's time.

Aidin's picture

Holy Pally does 1076 dps on

Aidin — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 05:34

Holy Pally does 1076 dps on her demon...rawwwwr!!!! I remember a day when i used to go "no demon no demon"...now it's like...bring it one bitch! lol  (and Ten 1563! WOW!) Go Go healer dps!!! lol

Atar's picture

I'm seeing a lot of low dps

Atar — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 00:15

I'm seeing a lot of low dps times.  Why are people so low?  I was in tank gear and beat dpsers on Fathomlord.  What's up?  Did ya go get coffee or something?

Cisper's picture

I'm seeing a lot of low dps

Cisper — Fri, 04/04/2008 - 03:16

I'm seeing a lot of low dps times.  Why are people so low?  I was in tank gear and beat dpsers on Fathomlord.  What's up?  Did ya go get coffee or something? - (Ataraxia's Post)

I don't know what people are doing, but its really gotten to a stage where its unfair. I know I'm resident bitchface, but its not fucking hard to do 800 DPS with the level of gear and people who are in your raid.

Doing any less then 800 DPS, unless you died - which is most likely due to something silly - is just unfair to the rest of the raid, NO MATTER YOUR CLASS.

I don't know if your not flasking, oiling your weapons, using potions or what, but talk to people from Hamfist, look at your class forums on WoW website or google "Getting the Best DPS from (Class)".

It's at a point where you're IN MOUNT HYJAL AND BLACK TEMPLE, TIER SIX - You shouldn't have to be baby'd anymore by Ataraxia.

Step it up, you've all shown you can do it.

PS. Atar ily grats on your pants <3

Roguered's picture

I would like to point out

Roguered — Thu, 04/03/2008 - 23:39

I would like to point out the fact that we did leo 24 man. Barqs got 1 shotted by the 3 mind blasts and didn't even get on the charts.

Dufe's picture

Parses:

Dufe — Thu, 04/03/2008 - 22:03

Parses: http://wowwebstats.com/rzn11iptaxoyq

Derchlon's picture

I got invited to a Thurday

Derchlon — Thu, 04/03/2008 - 16:23

I got invited to a Thurday night dinner thing at 5:30.  If all goes well, I'll be back by 6:30 or earlier easily.  I can park my toon infront of SSC with flask/food so I'm ready to go right when I get back.

I know I will be working

Ardea — Thu, 04/03/2008 - 10:40

I know I will be working really late tonight... I said that yesterday but I got really lucky...

 

Pettingzoo's picture

Ok, i replaced my modem

Pettingzoo — Thu, 04/03/2008 - 09:28

Ok, i replaced my modem today. After calling comcast and demanding level 3 support, I had a few tests run to discover the modem dying out. The modem was dropping packets left and right. After i take my test in the night class tonight, i'm giong home to stress test it.

I am seriously sorry about last night. Sometimes technology likes to point at me and laugh.

Gares of War's picture

Depending on how much my

Gares of War — Thu, 04/03/2008 - 08:20

Depending on how much my work load is today, I may not be on.  Doubt it will be the case, just a heads up.

Aidin's picture

Last night we rocked the

Aidin — Thu, 04/03/2008 - 07:50

Last night we rocked the joint! Some bad trash pulls..but we recovered liek it was nothing.  And boss shots were all pro...one shot Hydross, Lurker, and Tidewalker. I feel good about tonight!

Atar's picture

Got Leo, Fathom, and Vashj

Atar — Thu, 04/03/2008 - 07:47

Got Leo, Fathom, and Vashj left.  Let's hope we can get Zifter in for Leo.  Let's get two easy bosses down and take some Vashj shots.  If we don't down Vashj tonight. I totally think we can on Saturday.  Being back in SSC I can really tell how much our dps has improved. 

Dragon's picture

I signed up in case HBK

Dragon — Wed, 04/02/2008 - 20:57

I signed up in case HBK ain't able to make it for some reason. 

~Legendary Nobody

Hey guys,   Grasen told me

Olorien — Wed, 04/02/2008 - 19:14

Hey guys,

 

Grasen told me you were gonna shoot for Leo on Thursday.  I have made arrangements to raid Thursday night if you want Zifter for Tanking Leo.  I will be on and ready to go if you want me.

 

 

pulga's picture

Will be missing out on this

pulga — Sun, 03/30/2008 - 19:38

Will be missing out on this one.

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