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Please be sure to have your flasks, food, weapon imbues, reagents, and any scrolls you may need.  Do your best to be at the instance by the time invites go out.  We're going to need to maximize our time if we're going to progress very well in BT - lets get these moving faster.

Thu, 07/03/2008 - 11:15
Thu, 07/03/2008 - 14:00
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Threerick's picture

Well if you had read the

Threerick — Fri, 07/04/2008 - 14:59

Well if you had read the strat and watch videos like everyone else did, you'd know that you can output a lot more dps that was needed instead of holding back.  You were also there wednesday night doing RoS attempts and we got well into phase 2 without the warrior tank, so you did know what was going on and if you didn't you had the day to read.

If you have a bad day from work than just sit out for a night and don't attend, take a break.

shinz "raid invite is a privilege not a right" - i like that.

 

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Ruesch - 70 Night Elf Rogue.

I win, you Lose.

Dufe's picture

I can understand the concept

Dufe — Fri, 07/04/2008 - 13:31

I can understand the concept of learning a fight and having lower dps on new fights. In the future, I would rather that our dps is lower ONLY due to the unavoidable mistakes that happen on a new boss, and not due to anyone holding back at all. Hopefully when Atar, Grasen or I are calling on vent every 20 seconds for dps to "pick it up" or "give it everything you've got," people take that to heart and really but their back into it. Can't change the past (and wouldn't need to since the boss is dead), but let's keep this in mind for the future.

"That coupled with me being

Ardea — Fri, 07/04/2008 - 13:16

"That coupled with me being exhausted from working all day, dealing with the 2 most obnoxious customers I've ever met,"

 I know your pain...

pulga's picture

Wasn't there  a post the

pulga — Fri, 07/04/2008 - 13:04

Wasn't there  a post the other day about everyone having off nights?  Forgive, forget, and move on.  Next week is arch, and he will die.

Pulga all I'm going to say

Shinzwei — Fri, 07/04/2008 - 13:02

Pulga all I'm going to say is that a raid invite is a privilege not a right. If you had a hard day at work then maybe you shouldve taken a night off from raiding and cool down. Theres always somebody in guild whos willing to take any one of our raid spots. If Garreth sensed that I was slacking he'd drop me quicker than a bad habit.

pulga's picture

That coupled with me being

pulga — Fri, 07/04/2008 - 12:55

That coupled with me being exhausted from working all day, dealing with the 2 most obnoxious customers I've ever met, and I have a bit of an off  night while I'm trying to learn.  This is way too much criticsim for that.  Don't beat a horse that's already down.

pulga's picture

And all those arch no dps

pulga — Fri, 07/04/2008 - 12:39

And all those arch no dps attempts are for what then?  Learning how to survive.  Learning how to move properly.  That's what i was doing.  My priority on a fight that is different from everything else I've previously done is to stay alive and know exactly what to do, then to be dead and learn nothing.  I'm very bad at multitasking new things.  Once I know how something is, I'm fine at it.  Next time I see RoS/mother, I'll be doing much more damage.

saedo's picture

That was a planned raid

saedo — Fri, 07/04/2008 - 12:46

That was a planned raid thing.

This was a taking it upon yourself to sit in the corner while the rest of us carried you through the fight.

Wow Pulga.  lol "I didn't

Ardea — Fri, 07/04/2008 - 12:17

Wow Pulga.  lol

"I didn't want to do max healing because I wanted to learn the fight." I really hope that sounds silly to you.

"Hmm, Pulga surviving or someone who is trying to DPS."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL, my comment was a lot harsher.. but I thought it better to mock you. =p

Dufe's picture

Your hot dog avatar mocks me

Dufe — Fri, 07/04/2008 - 12:23

Your hot dog avatar mocks me . . . .

Going into a new fight with

Shinzwei — Fri, 07/04/2008 - 11:51

Going into a new fight with the intention of not giving your all is a big no no. Thats like saying everyone is working their asses off while you sit back and watch? i'm not trying to be an a-hole but everyone has to bring their A game when learning a new encounter. Council and Illidan will be a bitch if you dont max out your potential.

 

saedo's picture

Hmm so didn't do max dps on

saedo — Fri, 07/04/2008 - 11:48

Hmm so didn't do max dps on learning nights where the fights that needed dps to beat that enrage/zero mana/dot aura timer.   Gotcha.

pulga's picture

I took it really light on

pulga — Fri, 07/04/2008 - 11:36

I took it really light on dps the whole night.  I was trying to learn the fights, so anything about me doing less damage should be taken with a grain of salt.  In other words, the criticism was invalid since i wasn't trying to do max damage.  I've always done this on the first night or two of a boss that is different.  RoS is a very different fight than what I've been used to, so I just wanted to see what happened.  So in this case, parses don't show you what the story is.

Grasen's picture

/sigh.  Listen to Shinzwei,

Grasen — Fri, 07/04/2008 - 11:59

/sigh.  Listen to Shinzwei, he is correct here.

saedo's picture

I think Ruesch wanted me to

saedo — Fri, 07/04/2008 - 10:46

I think Ruesch wanted me to tell him how he sucked!  ;p   

Might as well do the others, but gonna ignore Grayina for the most part since he didn't read yesterday's post til after raid.  Wish I had Battle Shout in my group though!   ;p

Using the 2.4 renderer, gonna do this split up into phases:

 

Essence of Suffering: 

http://wowwebstats.com/ujq4331v3wsce?s=25809-30578&c=rog

This is a no aggro no armor max dps phase.   Kill it before it enrages if you can.     Looks like I pulled about 20% more attacks in, and I think I know why.   CD usage.

http://wowwebstats.com/ujq4331v3wsce?s=25809-30578&ab=13877

http://wowwebstats.com/ujq4331v3wsce?s=25809-30578&ab=13750

http://wowwebstats.com/ujq4331v3wsce?s=25809-30578&ab=35476

Looks like G5 did nothing this phase.  lol    No Blade Flurry, no Adrenaline Rush, no Drums, etc.

Side note, looks like SnD fell off once each for Grayina and Pulga:  http://wowwebstats.com/ujq4331v3wsce?s=25809-30578&ab=6774

 

Essence of Desire:  http://wowwebstats.com/ujq4331v3wsce?m&s=32382-44691

For this phase there's kicking, I tend to not use CDs cause I blow myself up many a times so I developed a fear.  lol

Hmm, Grayina and Pulga did like half the Sinister Strikes me and Ruesch did.   Looks like I managed 3 ruptures, vs Ruesch's 2, vs Pulga's 0.

SnD looks like only Pulga let it fall off 4 times while the rest of us kept it up fine.   http://wowwebstats.com/ujq4331v3wsce?s=32382-44691&ab=6774

Dunno what happened, but guess all that made Pulga way low, behind even Grayina and barely above Spork!  ;p

 

Essence of Anger:  http://wowwebstats.com/ujq4331v3wsce?s=46337-53610&c=rog

This is a bit skewed since the longer you're alive the more damage you can do.   But anyways...

Looks like I did 2 ruptures, Ruesch did 1 and 2 Evis, and Pulga did nothing.

Ruesch!  Why Evis?   The buff effects ruptures too.  Got myself an average of 580 ticks for a 4640 avg rupture!   Versus your 2482 avg evis.   Hell even by your own ticks, 500 a tick, that's a 4000 dmg rupture.

Looks like G5 missed using drums still:  http://wowwebstats.com/ujq4331v3wsce?s=46337-53610&ab=35476

 

Mother Shahraz:

Hmm a bit trickier since we all got the random deaths/fatal and there' SR so none us really got to stay full time on boss.

Guess I'll say this, Ruesch!   Use more Blade Flurry plx!   http://wowwebstats.com/ujq4331v3wsce?s=129325-150195&ab=13877

 

Well also for the whole of the night, goes for all rogues, use BF and AR more plx!

http://wowwebstats.com/ujq4331v3wsce?ab=13877

http://wowwebstats.com/ujq4331v3wsce?ab=13750

 

 

Dufe's picture

Parses:

Dufe — Thu, 07/03/2008 - 21:51

Parses: http://wowwebstats.com/3ydy1f3ekamlm

Aftonio's picture

 Might be a bitttt late,

Aftonio — Thu, 07/03/2008 - 14:34

 Might be a bitttt late, again. =\ My best friends are moving, so I'm going with them to check out the new crib.

 

 

You're killin' me, Smalls!

Caronte22's picture

might not be able to make it

Caronte22 — Thu, 07/03/2008 - 14:31

might not be able to make it need to handle some shit today hopefully will be on later

Threerick's picture

Will be here, but may be

Threerick — Thu, 07/03/2008 - 17:58

Will be here, but may be slightly late, shouldn't be too late.  Have family dinner.

 

 

EDIT: NVM back already.

 

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Ruesch - 70 Night Elf Rogue.

I win, you Lose.

Roguered's picture

Yeah, I was trying to

Roguered — Thu, 07/03/2008 - 10:11

Yeah, I was trying to towards the end but just need to get used to making calls.  I should do better next week aidin.

Aidin's picture

You did great! First time

Aidin — Thu, 07/03/2008 - 10:13

You did great! First time in there and they were rock solid attempts for us.

Fun Times in IRC:
[15:27] Dragonfork:
aidin hates me this I know, for my repair
bills tell me so. many times my health is low, aidin laughs when i
explode. yes aidin kills me, yes aidin kills me.

saedo's picture

If you guys are forced to

saedo — Thu, 07/03/2008 - 09:58

If you guys are forced to kick the deaden I would do one more, precall the next 2 when Deaden is about up (or at least know your place and be prepared).    Because Deaden and Spirit Shocks are on 2 different timers, what could result is a Spirit Shock, followed immediately by a Deaden, or vice versa.

Roguered's picture

As I said, I will be gone

Roguered — Thu, 07/03/2008 - 09:52

As I said, I will be gone tonight as well.  I did some talking with turth and his advice for calls on interupts. 

Precall interups.  When RoS is casting the call should be for the next person to interupt.  If your name is called be ready for the next cast, not the current cast going on.  If you guys have a warrior to reflect deaden it should be easy to call the other spell since its on a 5 second timer.  He also sugjested who ever is calling be first on the interupt rotation.  With that here is a sample rotation for tonight:

Ruesch,Pulga,Judge, Rhoora.  Assuming Ruesch is doing the calling.

When I'm back we'll go with: Me, Pulga, Judge, Ruesch. 

GL tonight everyone, I wanna come back to hear about a RoS kill!

Aidin's picture

"Precall interrupts. When

Aidin — Thu, 07/03/2008 - 09:59

"Precall interrupts. When RoS is casting the call should be for the next person to interrupt. If your name is called be ready for the next cast, not the current cast going on. "

That's what I was getting at last night...but somehow couldn't find the words to make my point...lol

Fun Times in IRC:
[15:27] Dragonfork:
aidin hates me this I know, for my repair
bills tell me so. many times my health is low, aidin laughs when i
explode. yes aidin kills me, yes aidin kills me.

Aidin's picture

You'll be down Grasen and

Aidin — Thu, 07/03/2008 - 09:13

You'll be down Grasen and (most likely) Aidin tonight guys. I'm really sorry...

After reading Karli and Ky's post about multi-tasking during raid times we've realized we are doing the same thing to LF1M. Grasen and I didn't have the focus you needed us to have last night. I was running around trying to cook, and find shit in boxes, and was horribly late, and he has a miserably hard day in the TX sun. He's got another day like that today.

I'd like to get some things done around the house tonight and tomorrow morning so I can have a sit back and relax weekend...however...if the strong showing of healers we have had lately don't show, I will not leave you guys high and dry, I'll tough it out. Grasen however, will still be out.

P.S. MOVING BLOWS HAIRY MONKEY BALLS....

Fun Times in IRC:
[15:27] Dragonfork:
aidin hates me this I know, for my repair
bills tell me so. many times my health is low, aidin laughs when i
explode. yes aidin kills me, yes aidin kills me.

Atar's picture

BRING YOUR SR GEAR!!!

Atar — Thu, 07/03/2008 - 08:37

BRING YOUR SR GEAR!!!

saedo's picture

The strat is easy.   Just

saedo — Wed, 07/02/2008 - 23:15

The strat is easy.   Just need SR for everyone but the tanks.   Make like 3 groups in various spots around her.   And run away from each other during Fatal Attraction.

Of course, having the EasyMother mod makes it completely trivial (it is NOT ACE).  http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/11531/

But only if you all have the same latest version.  Maybe you guys can have better luck getting people to install it since you're more of a fresh raid without the old versions.   (we got to 12 people that updated to latest version last time, new record!)

Derchlon's picture

Also, wouldn't be a bad idea

Derchlon — Wed, 07/02/2008 - 22:57

Also, wouldn't be a bad idea to be familiar with Mother strat aswell.  If we down RoS, the odds of her being on the menu are high.

Dragon's picture

BRING HEALTH POTS For phase

Dragon — Wed, 07/02/2008 - 20:51

BRING HEALTH POTS For phase 3 of RoS. Health Pot+Health stone when the boss is at 40% during P3=GG :D

There is no Emotion; There is Peace.
There is no Ignorance; There is Knowledge.
There is no Passion; There is Serenity.
There is no Death; There is The Force.
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Pettingzoo's picture

I will not be around for

Pettingzoo — Tue, 07/01/2008 - 16:19

I will not be around for this raid - concert/fireworks

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