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Back to ssc this weekend.    Main goals for bosses are Fathomlord and Vashj.

 

RULES:

Calls are for main toons only. Period. NO calls for alts at any time. Calls go to main raiders for main spec first. After that they go to non-main raiders for main spec first. Items not called for main spec will then be rolled for main spec use first.

Once all items have been distributed to main specs, calls for offspec items may then be made. When making an offspec call you must note that it is an offspec call in your post.

Items that have no calls will be rolled to main spec first then to off spec. Alts may only win items no mains need/want no matter the alt's spec.

Alts will only be allowed into the raid at the discretion of the raid leader for composition and balance purposes and where no main is available to fill the spot.

All characters, be it alt or main, MUST come as main spec unless the offspec is needed to make the run happen.

Once invites start, calls are closed. PERIOD. Put your calls in even if you are unsure if you will make it in case the run spills over into sunday. Calls do not reopen for a sunday cleanup.

Talk to me in vent if you have any questions as to these rules.

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Shihli's picture

And what I will say about

Shihli — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:48

And what I will say about that is again, constructive criticism is not a personal attack.  Furthermore, there are better ways of pointing out that someone may have been harsh in their post - simply attacking them doesn't help matters at all (as is evidenced by the length of this discussion already).

As an aside, at one point we had discussed during one of Hamfist's raids a seemingly blaring difference between the Aussies and the Americans - that is, the Americans seemed to take great offense to seemingly minor statements.  While I don't wish to dwell on any of this any further, all I would ask Jasmynn is that you look at how you responded to Grasen's posts and ask yourself if you didn't jump the gun on the "you're offending people" button.

Cisper's picture

Taken from his post: "I

Cisper — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:41

Taken from his post:

"I woulda expected a lil more from you"

"Need to be a lil better at being more attentive"


Not going to continue another one of these loop forum post debates, what was said was harsh, just wanted too make sure that Sandare knew what Grasen truly meant, and it wasnt just belittlement, as it could be suggested from what was said.

Goodnight!

garreth's picture

Fair enough, and a good

garreth — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:47

Fair enough, and a good summary. Sandar, we didn't mean to be harsh. Jas, we've missed you around the site lately :(

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Shihli's picture

All Grasen said was

Shihli — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:35

All Grasen said was "Sandarethkan, I didn't get many heals up top from you.  You need to watch the kiter's health more closely."

He did not say "Sandarethkan, you're a terrible healer and you should feel terrible for being so terrible."

Constructive criticism is different than a personal attack.

Cisper's picture

Sandarethkan got hit with a

Cisper — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:33

Sandarethkan got hit with a cheap shot, no one else is going to defend him. He did his job, and like I said in the first post, grats on a clean run, everyone played their roll and it payed off.

No reason to single him out cause you assume he wasnt doing what you expect, that's all.

garreth's picture

Jas, don't be a douche and

garreth — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:28

Jas, don't be a douche and picks fights you weren't in on ;)

Everyone did fine, grats new people on the Vashj kill.

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Shihli's picture

Jasmynn - If you want to

Shihli — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:25

Jasmynn -

If you want to pick fights, do it in PM's.

(Note - I didn't delete your posts either.)

Cisper's picture

Fair enough. Sandarethkan

Cisper — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:23

Fair enough. Sandarethkan you have not lived up to Grasen's expectations of you and are an unattentive raider.

On the brightside, you have your T6 helm.

Cisper's picture

Two guesses who deleted the

Cisper — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:15

Two guesses who deleted the actually well thoughtout and dignified post, with evidence tagged too it.

And Ardea that is absolutely correct, they aren't bad healers, but insinuiating that one is because of an assumption is unfair.

 Toe-may-toe

To-mart-a

Summary as I see it: Grasen:

Ardea — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:13

Summary as I see it:

Grasen: Watch my health and Heal me

Cisper: They aren't bad healers

 

Grasen's picture

Your summery would be

Grasen — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:16

Your summery would be correct. they arent bad healers. I;m done argueing with you Cisper,   My observation still stands.

Cisper's picture

"In response to the comment

Cisper — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:13

"In response to the comment i was replying to that no longer exists, A side healers role at Vashj is 2 sided.   Healing your side dps'er as well as healing the kiter when he comes around.  If the side dps;er dies someone can be rotated from the top to cover that side.   If the kiter dies it;s game over."

I'm sure when you gave the run down of the fight, you said "Sandarethkhan, heal your side, Side 1, with your DPSer, Reusch. If the kiter is near you, heal him." The infered 'if' can only suggest that if he is able to do so.

No matter the case, what you said was blunt but untrue, and you only gave you could tell from on the surface, you can't assume unattentiveness or 'expect more from you', because he didn't heal you over his DPS.

Cisper's picture

Please, delete my posts more

Cisper — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:10

Please, delete my posts more when I give you evidence that Sandare did his job.

Grasen's picture

I didnt deleate

Grasen — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:12

I didnt deleate that,.     i was typeing a response and when i tried to post it it said "the comment you are replying to does not exist"    I assumed you deleated it.

Cisper's picture

You'll also be possibly

Cisper — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 08:54

You'll also be possibly taking damage from the Poison Bolts from the Tainted Spawns, I didn't say you didn't need any, I said "shouldn't be much", suffice too say, the heals on you is a joint effort and just because Sander didn't heal you doesn't mean he is attentive.

 I've reflected on parses, and he is smart about using Spells in a manageable and effective manner, he may of easily not had the oppurtunity to heal you, as he was healing Reusch instead - following his assigned target to heal.

Inevitably, you take damage, but the healers work as a team, can't put the solitarily of blame on the one person and assume it's their fault.

Grasen's picture

There was no blame or fault,

Grasen — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 08:58

There was no blame or fault, merely a suggustion for improvement. Again I am fully aware of where i was lacking heals and where i wasnt. Thats what sent me to look at healing in the first place.  

Grasen's picture

Furthermore this is not

Grasen — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:03

Furthermore this is not directed at his attentiveness in any fight sept the one in question.

Grasen's picture

In response to the comment i

Grasen — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 09:09

In response to the comment i was replying to that no longer exists, A side healers role at Vashj is 2 sided.   Healing your side dps'er as well as healing the kiter when he comes around.  If the side dps;er dies someone can be rotated from the top to cover that side.   If the kiter dies it;s game over.

Shihli's picture

Jas - The striders do a 4.5k

Shihli — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 08:14

Jas -

The striders do a 4.5k Mind Blast (or something similar) every so often to the person on the top of their threat list.  The kiter absolutely does need heals.

Grasen's picture

as well as the lightning

Grasen — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 08:22

as well as the lightning bolts Vashj herself puts out. I'm also very aware of when and where i was lacking in heals. 

Cisper's picture

As a kiter, there shouldn't

Cisper — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 07:59

As a kiter, there shouldn't be much need for you to get heals, let alone you may have been on the opposite side of Sander when taking damage, you can't really put numbers into the equation when you're circulating and taking inconsistent damage.

Grats on the two-shot though, good too see Deje in raid :)

starstalker's picture

    Nice Keis

starstalker — Sun, 07/13/2008 - 00:14

 

 
Nice Keis

Grasen's picture

Vashj Parses:

Grasen — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 07:42

Vashj Parses: http://wowwebstats.com/kuka6tio4gx6q

 

Grasen's picture

Awesom job on the 2shot. We

Grasen — Mon, 07/14/2008 - 07:44

Awesom job on the 2shot. We had I think 7 people who hadent been to
Vashj with us before, 5 of those being Vashj virgins. Everyone was
awesome this fight.

Our 2 guild apps Xandera(Zaq) and Foresight did wonderful. Ignore Zaq's
low dps time as I had him at side 2. Foresight did wonderfull up top
to.

Big props to Deje. Allow me to compare you to Garreth here a lil in
this fight. Every time I came round your side over there at 2 you hit
me with heals damn near. Awesome job there Deje. You healed me more
than any side healer.

On the flip side of that I only receaved 2 heals from sander on
side 1 the entire night. you had Rousch over there at 1 as your healing
target. I woulda expected a lil more from you on heals. Need to be a
lil better at being more attentive to the top as well as keeping up
with your side healer as well.

You'll notice Atak and Jayel (the 2 top healers) only healed me 6 and 7
times between both attemps. Side healers keeping me up will make or
break this fight as I am usually far out on the edges and not feesable
for atak or jayal to heal up there.

saedo's picture

Go go alts beating most

saedo — Sat, 07/12/2008 - 23:54

Go go alts beating most mains!  ;p

/Flex

Keisjaa — Sat, 07/12/2008 - 22:45

/Flex

saedo's picture

Parses: 

saedo — Sat, 07/12/2008 - 22:42

Parses:  http://wowwebstats.com/6bwkjegyhkezw

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[Sextant of Unstable

warion — Sat, 07/12/2008 - 17:04

[item]Sextant of Unstable Currents[/item]

Talon of azshara

kado — Sat, 07/12/2008 - 17:08

Talon of azshara

leggings of vanquished

kado — Sat, 07/12/2008 - 17:09

leggings of vanquished defender

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