I've seen your name on a sign up here and there...but have yet to see you in anything.

Don't let your app get buried! Keep it alive ...stay active on the forums!!!

I'm posting this a little late...but here's some useful info:

Thank you for your application to Downfall. We are not currently recruiting for our 25 man MH/BT/SW raids. This does not mean that your application is or will be rejected. What it does mean, is that you will now be faced with a few tasks.

Downfall is a community first and foremost and a successful raiding guild second. First you need to ask yourself what it is you want from Downfall. If it's a spot in end game raid, and nothing more...then you may want to seek entry into another one of the many guilds on Gorgonnash.

If you desire a strong sense of community then get ready to work for it! When we talk about community, we aren't talking about the type of community that jumps when you say OMGRUNMYALTTHRUVC!!!! We're talking about a group for people who love this game we pour our lives into, people who will run things with you when they have time, people who may have their own special way of contributing to the community.

Now that you have applied (and if my wall of text didn't lose u 2 paragraphs ago), don't just sit there and hope someone will come hunt you down and say "HERE'S YOUR INVITE!!" because that simply will not happen. Those who gain entry into Downfall work for it. Members have waited upwards of 3 months or more to be part of our community. How do you ensure that you have every option to be the next addition?

Here's an idea:

• Stay active on this thread, it's your application. You will receive feedback and recommendations. Don't take anything personal, if you can't take constructive criticism, you will never make it in guild chat. Applications are open to the entire community, not just officers, so if you were a douche to a member in the past, be ready for it to bite you in the ass.
• If given goals to meet, make them.
• Sign up for events you can make and which you are geared for. No need to sign up for MH/BT/SW, as those aren't testing grounds for new members. Focus on the Sunday Gruul/Mag run by yours truly or the Saturday SSC/TK run by Grasen.
• If you sign up...show up. No one likes an app who signs up for all raids and never shows. Be sure to send a tell to the raid leader so he/she knows you are available and ready to rock.
• Download the raid pack. DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT show up to a Gruul/Mag or SSC/TK without our required add ons. If you do not understand what you are looking at, then research it. If you still don't understand, post you're question and someone will help you. (If you think only bad players use mods, we can say our goodbyes right now)
• Do everything you can to get your name out there, and show why you should be part of our community. Run 5 mans, Run 10 mans, participate in forum discussions.

If and when you are accepted into Downfall, you are strictly on a trial basis. If we invite you because you convinced us you were the worlds greatest healer/tank/random dps class, and you looooooooooove to run 5 mans...but you never run a thing, you never sign up for fun runs, and you burn out and don't sign on for 1+ months, don't be surprised if you find yourself guildless on log in one day.

It's very simple, don't say what we want to hear just to get in, because it will haunt you in the end. Be honest, and we will be fair.

With that said....GOOD LUCK ON YOUR APPLICATION!

Sure thing, next time I log i'll put my PvE gear back on. As far as comfortability with gear & all, I have a pretty good general knowledge on which piece is an upgrade or not & what I need as far as like agi/crit/RAP/Shot rotation & that goes.

However I will say that I could always use some help, there is always something to be learned as I see it, I know I dont know hunters front & back but i'm also not going to sit there & say I do & insist that I need more intellect over agi or some BS like that.

I'll poke thru his armory when I get a chance.  Also, I recognize the name Clarer and I remember Arsanic - I don't have fond memories of Arsanic and I only remember Clarer's name.

Clarer had his time in Df and pissed it away, LOL. Arsanic bailed on us (probably real life, it happens).

But Jai rocks :)

Ev, how sound are you on hunter theorycraft and gear selection? We've got some of the best hunters on the server that can probably give you some feedback. Take it all in. Remember, we do this to help and make each of us something much more than we'd be on our own.

I will admit: There's not a lot of hunter slots open in raids these days.

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