Nah aidin, that just means the paladin's wanted to give the warrior something to do. Ya know, make em work for it.

JK JK JK

There is no Emotion; There is Peace.
There is no Ignorance; There is Knowledge.
There is no Passion; There is Serenity.
There is no Death; There is The Force.
~Jedi Code

Brought Lurgen along for a mAlt Gruul/Mag parses:

http://wowwebstats.com/dncsseyp2spvi

Overall, he did his job, listened well...not much of a talker yet...lol Had to give a shout out for some attention to his aggro...but that could have been the nubbish MT's fault more then his super nuking lock aggro..lol YES I MT'ED RAWWWWWWWR!

We can reeval Encounter in his app,   

As for this one, I liked the app, Well thought out and articulate(did i just use that word?) Besides that no opinion at the time.  

/facepalm

Here's a little martial arts history lesson for ya!

Jujutsu started with the samurai in Japan, as a way of defending themselves when using a sword was impossible or impractical (such as in a government building).  The art of Jujutsu is, therefore, something around 400-600 years old.

Brazilian Jujutsu was started by the Gracie family, as a way of defending oneself with your bare hands, but designed such that anyone of any size or shape could make good use of it.  Brazilian Jujutsu started in 1914. 

Jiu-jitsu is how Americans bastardized the language.  Same thing we did with crap like chimichangas.

Trust me, it's jujutsu. 

Nikkyta went home for the summer(he's in college) where his parents have pretty much kept him from logging in. He's actually pretty sad that he hasn't been able to play, and keeps asking me how everyones doing.

I really don't know whats going on with Encounter either, since he really doesn't say anything in gchat, and hasn't really talked to me either.

 Lurgen is a good kid though, and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't mind just don't the SSC/TK's gruul/mag, whatever when he was needed.

He asked me tons of questions pre-app, and honestly seemed really excited, and worried about how he should word things. He really put a lot of thought into apping.

-Jos

I havent been grilling new apps in awhile but here goes. You say you would be disappointed if it took a long time for you to raid. Sorry to disappoint you but if you are invited into guild you wont see much besides the raids you've already done. On our off nights there are tons of Kara, ZA, and an assload of 5 mans going on. We have a long line of new recruits and guildies who would love to do Black Temple and Hyjal so dont get your hopes up of seeing those instances.

Reading your app there were a few times you say you were top 10, top 5, and even top 3. So you're pretty confident about what you do. Our locks in guild are veterans and would put you to shame. But thats obvious because they are all sporting T6 gear.

I see alot of "I want to join Downfall and meet new friends, help out with whatever I can" and blah blah blah. We have had lots join Downfall and leave because they cant raid. They think that when they get accepted into an end game raiding guild that we will gear them up with T6 gear. Thats not how things work around here. Maybe I'm taking my frustration out on you but whatever.

You answered yes to the "Would you ever burn out" quetsion. How and why?An explanation would be helpful or else you would just be another recruit who had to quit due to life issues. Thats a very legitimate reason and who am I to tell you that a game is more important than life. We dont want to waste our time and yours if you know you're going to burn out.  I know I'm being hard but if you cant take me ripping you a new one during the application process then you wouldnt wanna see it in green text.

Hmm what else am I leaving out. Anyways if you have high hopes of seeing end game just because you may sport the <Downfall> tag ontop of your head I would suggest you look elsewhere.

I just have a few quick things for you.

1. you said "I would personally love to raid because that is the top asset I love about this game. I might be disappointed if it would take that long to raid but I am also coming into the guild for friendships."

With your available times, you would never really see anything outside of Gruul/Mag or maybe an occasional SSC/TK if you had the gear and dps to do so. We have 25 man raiding locks coming out of our ears, and a line a mile long waiting for their shot at BT and SW.

How do you feel about this?

2. You mentioned Encounter, Josalin, and Nikkyta.

I'm gonna be frank here, and I really hope I don't upset anyone. Encounter has been in the guild for quite some time, and no one has a clue who he is. I run the older 25 content with my husband, and he's never even stepped foot in with us (even though I've prompted him to sign up), I don't even know if he's bothered running 5 mans. Nikkyta hasn't shown his face in ages...he just went poof. Jossy is da bomb...but using Encounter and Nikkyta for references kinda makes me go...meh...he won't be around or participate in the community. How can we be sure you aren't another Nikkyta or Encounter?

Well-spoken, particularly for a 16-year-old.  But jiu-jitsu?  Aww man, Americanized Japanese FTL.  Jujutsu, please.

(I'm a martial arts snob)

Overall I can't say we have a lot of space, but as per what we usually say on these sorts of apps, make your presence known on the site and sign up for the oft-run Karazhan and "mAlt" Gruul/Magtheridon runs.