I've been in 5 raiding guilds in 3 years. As long as you guys are fun to be around is how long i will stay.
This concerns me greatly. You're averaging a 6-7 month staying period with each guild which, while it sounds like a lot ... is not. Most of us in <Downfall> have been raiding together under the same guild tag for 4 years.
If I am accepted and make the switch to the server I will become a valuable part of your community i have no doubt about that. Aside from raiding I enjoy pvping, ZA, and when im looking for something to do I might join a 5 man. It might take me a little time to get acclimated to the server change and new life schedule so my activity will grow with time.
Unfortunately the only way i will make the xfer is if, given once i prove my raid value, i will have a good chance to get into BT/SWP. As i stated above i have leveled 6 Toons to 70 and all of them have full epic sets, so all thats left in the game for me really is end game content and helping friends out. (i have done more 5 mans that i dont want to even think about it... oh wait i just thought did.. damn.)
In response to Garreth
I really do enjoy my shaman, because it such a blast to play. As elemental I have the ability to be strong dps and switch over to being an useful healer with just the click of a button and we are the only class that can really do so
With my experience from my own toons as well as have spent hours reading up at elitistjerks.com learning about all classes and specs im sure my knowledge will come to be useful. I use to be the recruiting/sham/warlock officer of my old guild. I am a strong raid leader and due to my knowledge of other classes and class dynamics I often can provide good tips and tricks. The most exciting aspect of joining your guild is the fact that you guys have never played with an elemental shaman and being the one who shows you their value will be fun. (my last two guilds both tried to use two elemental shamans when they were on)
I had a chance to talk with Iwin last night. He really knows his stuff and seems to have a lot of enthusiasm for the class and role.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Yes; analogies, it turns out, can sometimes be used to draw parallels between things that are not exactly the same." - Ratgirl
Thank you for your application to Downfall. We are doing minimal recruiting for our 25 man MH/BT/SW raids. This does not mean that your application is or will be rejected. What it does mean, is that you will now be faced with a few tasks.
Downfall is a community first and foremost and a successful raiding guild second. First you need to ask yourself what it is you want from Downfall. If it's a spot in end game raid, and nothing more...then you may want to seek entry into another one of the many guilds on Gorgonnash.
If you desire a strong sense of community then get ready to work for it! When we talk about community, we aren't talking about the type of community that jumps when you say OMGRUNMYALTTHRUVC!!!! We're talking about a group for people who love this game we pour our lives into, people who will run things with you when they have time, people who may have their own special way of contributing to the community.
Now that you have applied (and if my wall of text didn't lose u 2 paragraphs ago), don't just sit there and hope someone will come hunt you down and say "HERE'S YOUR INVITE!!" because that simply will not happen. Those who gain entry into Downfall work for it. Members have waited upwards of 3 months or more to be part of our community. How do you ensure that you have every option to be the next addition?
Here's an idea:
Stay active on this thread, it's your application. You will receive feedback and recommendations. Don't take anything personal, if you can't take constructive criticism, you will never make it in guild chat. Applications are open to the entire community, not just officers, so if you were a douche to a member in the past, be ready for it to bite you in the ass.
If given goals to meet, make them.
Sign up for events you can make and which you are geared for. No need to sign up for MH/BT/SW, as those aren't testing grounds for new members. Focus on the Sunday Gruul/Mag run by yours truly or the Saturday SSC/TK run by Grasen.
If you sign up...show up. No one likes an app who signs up for all raids and never shows. Be sure to send a tell to the raid leader so he/she knows you are available and ready to rock.
Download the raid pack. DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT show up to a Gruul/Mag or SSC/TK without our required add ons. If you do not understand what you are looking at, then research it. If you still don't understand, post you're question and someone will help you. (If you think only bad players use mods, we can say our goodbyes right now)
Do everything you can to get your name out there, and show why you should be part of our community. Run 5 mans, Run 10 mans, participate in forum discussions.
If and when you are accepted into Downfall, you are strictly on a trial basis. If we invite you because you convinced us you were the worlds greatest healer/tank/random dps class, and you looooooooooove to run 5 mans...but you never run a thing, you never sign up for fun runs, and you burn out and don't sign on for 1+ months, don't be surprised if you find yourself guildless on log in one day.
It's very simple, don't say what we want to hear just to get in, because it will haunt you in the end. Be honest, and we will be fair.
Armory doesn't show it but I have 268 haste in my dps gear when my totem procs 368. Raid buffed with totems down im around 1350 spell damage with 35% lightning bolt crit. I'm pretty much a lightning bolt turret.
In my resto gear i am around 2200 healing and 235 haste unbuffed. My helm and gloves are t6.
I'm going to raid kara or something today to get a WWS up. I wish the free WWS uploads lasted longer than 15 days =(
How long do you intend to
Shihli — Mon, 08/25/2008 - 13:36How long do you intend to stay in Downfall?:
I've been in 5 raiding guilds in 3 years. As long as you guys are fun to be around is how long i will stay.
This concerns me greatly. You're averaging a 6-7 month staying period with each guild which, while it sounds like a lot ... is not. Most of us in <Downfall> have been raiding together under the same guild tag for 4 years.
In response to Aidin. If I
Iwinyou (not verified) — Mon, 08/25/2008 - 13:09In response to Aidin.
If I am accepted and make the switch to the server I will become a valuable part of your community i have no doubt about that. Aside from raiding I enjoy pvping, ZA, and when im looking for something to do I might join a 5 man. It might take me a little time to get acclimated to the server change and new life schedule so my activity will grow with time.
Unfortunately the only way i will make the xfer is if, given once i prove my raid value, i will have a good chance to get into BT/SWP. As i stated above i have leveled 6 Toons to 70 and all of them have full epic sets, so all thats left in the game for me really is end game content and helping friends out. (i have done more 5 mans that i dont want to even think about it... oh wait i just thought did.. damn.)
In response to Garreth
I really do enjoy my shaman, because it such a blast to play. As elemental I have the ability to be strong dps and switch over to being an useful healer with just the click of a button and we are the only class that can really do so
With my experience from my own toons as well as have spent hours reading up at elitistjerks.com learning about all classes and specs im sure my knowledge will come to be useful. I use to be the recruiting/sham/warlock officer of my old guild. I am a strong raid leader and due to my knowledge of other classes and class dynamics I often can provide good tips and tricks. The most exciting aspect of joining your guild is the fact that you guys have never played with an elemental shaman and being the one who shows you their value will be fun. (my last two guilds both tried to use two elemental shamans when they were on)
I had a chance to talk with
garreth — Mon, 08/25/2008 - 08:54I had a chance to talk with Iwin last night. He really knows his stuff and seems to have a lot of enthusiasm for the class and role.
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"Yes; analogies, it turns out, can sometimes be used to draw parallels between things that are not exactly the same." - Ratgirl
Thank you for your
Aidin — Mon, 08/25/2008 - 05:09Thank you for your application to Downfall. We are doing minimal recruiting for our 25 man MH/BT/SW raids. This does not mean that your application is or will be rejected. What it does mean, is that you will now be faced with a few tasks.
Downfall is a community first and foremost and a successful raiding guild second. First you need to ask yourself what it is you want from Downfall. If it's a spot in end game raid, and nothing more...then you may want to seek entry into another one of the many guilds on Gorgonnash.
If you desire a strong sense of community then get ready to work for it! When we talk about community, we aren't talking about the type of community that jumps when you say OMGRUNMYALTTHRUVC!!!! We're talking about a group for people who love this game we pour our lives into, people who will run things with you when they have time, people who may have their own special way of contributing to the community.
Now that you have applied (and if my wall of text didn't lose u 2 paragraphs ago), don't just sit there and hope someone will come hunt you down and say "HERE'S YOUR INVITE!!" because that simply will not happen. Those who gain entry into Downfall work for it. Members have waited upwards of 3 months or more to be part of our community. How do you ensure that you have every option to be the next addition?
Here's an idea:
If and when you are accepted into Downfall, you are strictly on a trial basis. If we invite you because you convinced us you were the worlds greatest healer/tank/random dps class, and you looooooooooove to run 5 mans...but you never run a thing, you never sign up for fun runs, and you burn out and don't sign on for 1+ months, don't be surprised if you find yourself guildless on log in one day.
It's very simple, don't say what we want to hear just to get in, because it will haunt you in the end. Be honest, and we will be fair.
With that said....GOOD LUCK ON YOUR APPLICATION!
Oh a few more
Iwinyou (not verified) — Mon, 08/25/2008 - 04:10Oh a few more things....
Armory doesn't show it but I have 268 haste in my dps gear when my totem procs 368. Raid buffed with totems down im around 1350 spell damage with 35% lightning bolt crit. I'm pretty much a lightning bolt turret.
In my resto gear i am around 2200 healing and 235 haste unbuffed. My helm and gloves are t6.
I'm going to raid kara or something today to get a WWS up. I wish the free WWS uploads lasted longer than 15 days =(