I need nothing else.  I just wanted to make it clear that I didn't mean to cause any inconvenience.  I really did mean to get back to you and let you know I joined a different group but I completely forgot.  My apologies once again.

You asked if there was space for another dps in the run (indicative of desire to come on the run).

I told you, and I paraphrase, "invites haven't started, I'll let you know when we start."

I give "blunt" answers because a short, direct answer is a better one.  I did not say "We're full on dps", rather, I told you simply that I would let you know when invites have started.

You asked to be considered for an invite.  I told you I'd consider you.  What more do you need? 

A note:

Aelf asked me yesterday if there was any room for dps in my Karazhan raid.  I had not yet started the raid, so I told him that I wasn't sure and I'd get back to him.  When I did start invites, about 10 minutes into them in fact, I had a need for 1 more dps'er.

When I asked Aelf if he would come, I noticed he was already in Karazhan with his guild, <Mutiny>.

Don't ask to be invited to raids if you're not willing to wait for word on if you can come.

Of course, dreamstate would be one of the first to go, along with force of nature, and celestial focus.  While I am not raiding, tho, I prefer to keep my current spec for the activities posted above.

Pst me in-game any time, I'd love to hear what you have to say.

After our recent successes with hybrids in Hamfist, I'm much more open to them. However, their lack of personal dps needs to be offset by crazy mob-debuffs and raid-buffs.

In other words, if you get to luxury to raid as a dps hybrid, you gotta bring a LOT more than just personal dps.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Yes; analogies, it turns out, can sometimes be used to draw parallels between things that are not exactly the same." - Ratgirl

We've brought a consistent Boomchicken to the Hamfist raid so that our raiders can re-gem/re-itemize to haste and crit instead of hit. Our locks that inevitably get stuffed into the chicken group can regem to haste instead of pure crit.

Chickens are the full package, baby.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Yes; analogies, it turns out, can sometimes be used to draw parallels between things that are not exactly the same." - Ratgirl

I consider myself a casual player, therefor I have not chosen to apply to Downfall for the advanced, new-content raids such as Hamfist.  I am more content to experience the less-advanced content and just improve my raiding experience and have fun.  I have also heard a lot about the extremely nice and helpful players that make up the Downfall Community and that has been another main reason for my app.  I have been in my share of guilds and know first-hand how important it is for everyone to get along in the guild.

"...being ignored in guild chat." is really just another way of saying lack of active members.  Going for weeks at a time of logging on at 12-8 and not seeing a hint of life, being the only person logged at primetime, etc.

At the moment, my spec does include Insect Swarm (no improved versions of it at the moment), but not Imp Faerie Fire.  My spec has 3 points in intensity to increase my mana generated by 30% as well as 1 in Subtlety which allows me to dps at a much higher rate and not worry as much about my mana levels or threat.  In raids where most of the rogues, dps warriors, hunters etc. are hit capped, it is not necessary to have the extra 3% hit bonus.  I know as well as many other spell casters how much of a dps decrease it can be having to hold off on my damage on especially long boss fights, therefor I've chosen my spec the way it is.  

If it is asked of me, I will, of course respec to include Improved Faerie Fire, among other talents, if it is necessary for the raid.

Just gonna hit a few quick points I found interesting in your app that I would like you to respond to because they stuck out to me.

First one:
"Why have you chosen to apply to Downfall?: 

I have chosen to apply to downfall for the less hard-core 25 man raids and 10 mans."

Although these are "easier" to get into than our MH/BT/SWP raids, for me at least I generally assume that a majority of people who app to downfall wish to raid in general. Therefore I personally look for something more substansive for the answer to this question.

Second:

"What things might cause you to leave?: 

Lack of active members, being ignored in g-chat."

Although never purposely done, the italized part does sometimes happens due to raids or people focused on other things atm. Not saying it will always happen but this does worry me because I have seen it happen at times.

Final thing is rather something you didn't mention in terms of your specs raid viability and utility. You mentioned the obvious 5% spellcrit from being a boomkin, but do you take imp insect swarm to help with tank mitigation, what about imp faerie fire so the melee can stack less hit with you in a raid.

I look forward to your answers.

~The "LOLFriendly" Neighborhood Ret Paladin

Developers: "Our nerfs will blot out the sun."
Paladins: "Then we will QQ in the shade."

Thank you for your application to Downfall. We are doing minimal recruiting for our 25 man MH/BT/SW raids. This does not mean that your application is or will be rejected. What it does mean, is that you will now be faced with a few tasks.

Downfall is a community first and foremost and a successful raiding guild second. First you need to ask yourself what it is you want from Downfall. If it's a spot in end game raid, and nothing more...then you may want to seek entry into another one of the many guilds on Gorgonnash.

If you desire a strong sense of community then get ready to work for it! When we talk about community, we aren't talking about the type of community that jumps when you say OMGRUNMYALTTHRUVC!!!! We're talking about a group for people who love this game we pour our lives into, people who will run things with you when they have time, people who may have their own special way of contributing to the community.

Now that you have applied (and if my wall of text didn't lose u 2 paragraphs ago), don't just sit there and hope someone will come hunt you down and say "HERE'S YOUR INVITE!!" because that simply will not happen. Those who gain entry into Downfall work for it. Members have waited upwards of 3 months or more to be part of our community. How do you ensure that you have every option to be the next addition?

Here's an idea:

• Stay active on this thread, it's your application. You will receive feedback and recommendations. Don't take anything personal, if you can't take constructive criticism, you will never make it in guild chat. Applications are open to the entire community, not just officers, so if you were a douche to a member in the past, be ready for it to bite you in the ass.
• If given goals to meet, make them.
• Sign up for events you can make and which you are geared for. No need to sign up for MH/BT/SW, as those aren't testing grounds for new members. Focus on the Sunday Gruul/Mag run by yours truly or the Saturday SSC/TK run by Grasen.
• If you sign up...show up. No one likes an app who signs up for all raids and never shows. Be sure to send a tell to the raid leader so he/she knows you are available and ready to rock.
• Download the raid pack. DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT show up to a Gruul/Mag or SSC/TK without our required add ons. If you do not understand what you are looking at, then research it. If you still don't understand, post you're question and someone will help you. (If you think only bad players use mods, we can say our goodbyes right now)
• Do everything you can to get your name out there, and show why you should be part of our community. Run 5 mans, Run 10 mans, participate in forum discussions.

If and when you are accepted into Downfall, you are strictly on a trial basis. If we invite you because you convinced us you were the worlds greatest healer/tank/random dps class, and you looooooooooove to run 5 mans...but you never run a thing, you never sign up for fun runs, and you burn out and don't sign on for 1+ months, don't be surprised if you find yourself guildless on log in one day.

It's very simple, don't say what we want to hear just to get in, because it will haunt you in the end. Be honest, and we will be fair.

With that said....GOOD LUCK ON YOUR APPLICATION!