Dont wanna interrupt your discussion but how can i sign up for an event or do something to prove myself, or will you just pst me if you need someone and i'm online? How does it work? I also forgot the raid fps question, its never lower than 30 so its ok.
Feel free to jump into the pally discussion at any time Mr. Pally App :)
Glyph + Beacon = Paladin all of a sudden #1? I dunno Saedo...I'm not buying it. Maybe it's fight specific? Then again, I am still learning how to be a paladin again with all the new changes.
I tried to watch things closely last night and not let things die...
I noticed that if I loaded a heal on lets say Dragon, but someone else sniped it, it healed for 0 and beacon gets nada. With chains and circles of hax flying around...they should still be on the tops.
Yea fight dependent, but it means you can really shine or keep up with raid healing when everyone's taking damage.
I think you load up the beacon on Dragon himself. Or someone that's gonna be taking damage. Like yourself even maybe. Then go about healing the MT, others, etc. Then all heals you do will snipe on the beacon target. If it's yourself, gives you mana back too.
Beacon allows for some really dynamic healing approaches.
Last night, I was far away from everyone healing Orky by the door. Since we're all taking damage, I Beacon'd myself knowing that I'd have to survive without help from the raid. An awesome side effect to this is that the beacon heals will trigger Spiritual Attunement and give you 10% of the heal back as mana. Also, since there a fair number of melee nearby Orky, the Glyph was going apeshit around him. Oh, and each glyph AND beacon proc CAN CRIT. At one point, I crit orky, I crit myself with beacon and 3 of the glyphs all crit. And my healing proc from the illidan mace went off.
I basically did about 27,000 points of healing IN A SINGLE HEAL. And I got most of the cost of the spell back as mana too (60% from Illumination and about 700 from the effective healing from the beacon heal on me).
Yea looks like only 5 proc whenever Hbk and Ewiges came around to help Orky with adds. What's interesting that I didn't know before is that it will proc on to the very target you healed with Holy Light. So basically more heals right there to him.
Yep, this proves that the glyph already is only a 5 yard thing and isn't being "nerfed" in the next patch, just having it's tooltip adjusted. As it stands, it's an amazing amazing thing for paladins and something I've fallen in love with.
Anyone have the parse for that Eredar fight I was on? I thought I crit healed for 14K. Wasn't sure if I used any special spell rotations for it or not.
I think I realize what it is. In Parrot if you get like several crits in a row very fast, it merges em together. Like 600 crit, 600 crit, 600 crit, it'll say 1800 (3 crits).
Yes yes you beat me to it Fjork...I'm getting slow in my old age.
Seems like a solid app. Let me know when you go back holy so I can take a peek at your gear and your spec...your a retardin right now... /sigh
Oh and:
"in the top healers for sure, but is that cause the others are bad, i dont know?"
If the paladin is #1...the shammies, priests and druids you're running with SUCK MONKEY BALLS. Effing chain hax, haxed HoTs, and circle of hax mother f.....yea you get the point (Me bitter? noooooooooooooooo!)
What things might cause you to leave?:
Guild disbanding, falling apart or going nowhere. Feeling not appreciated or unlike.
If Shihli tells a joke (good or bad), will you laugh?:
Yes
You should know now these two things seem to contradict each other in my mind..........
On the flip side, (I BEAT AIDIN!!!) thanks for the guild application! We can almost always find places for Healers. Especially considering we're possibly looking at two 25 man and two or more 10 man raids come WotLK.
Now for my suggestions. 5mans, Heroics, weeknights, and weekends. Just sign-up if you see an opening (I think theres a ZA this Friday...), and be online/available mon/thurs in case one of the raids needs a PUG. Hamfist and LF1M are still pretty much raiding.
Couple quick questions: Why the nearly stock UI? Raid fps?
Also, can you logout in your healing gear and link a wowhead.com copy of your healing talent build for our healers to glance at? (Trust me, I understand fully the need to stay specced ret for $$ reasons)
Thanks and good luck!
I might be biased for the pally cause I usually make petty comments (oh wait... I did...), but I wish you luck in your application.
Hi, thank you for your generous comments. For the nearly stock UI, i had no screenshot of me while raiding and since im not in a guild, well, im not raiding much so i just took a random screenshot of me, but usually, i simply drag the raid groups to the interface which could be fix if thats a problem for you with Grid. Yes, thats Healbot you see and im ok with it. Although i would be willing to use grid if necessary and if helped to configure. If that can increase my healing and dispelling quickness, why not. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent, thats probably what i would use in a 25 man for holy spec which is a bit different from my current spec cause im not raiding atm. Armory is still not updated atm so i'll be linking it later i guess. Thx for your time.
I used Healbot for a looooooooooooooooong time before making the switch to Grid. I was stubborn about it for so long too. Never regretted it a single day. So much more information provided and it takes up very little real estate on your screen unlike healbot and raid frames.
Bumping this app. One of
garreth — Mon, 12/01/2008 - 11:47Bumping this app. One of Knoppix's friends and the app system accidentally ate his app.
Mmmmmmm pally talk *makes
Dragon — Thu, 10/23/2008 - 05:22Mmmmmmm pally talk *makes note to join in later*
Oh and pallies who put their Bacon on me rock :D
Dont wanna interrupt your
Phyltran (not verified) — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 21:38Dont wanna interrupt your discussion but how can i sign up for an event or do something to prove myself, or will you just pst me if you need someone and i'm online? How does it work? I also forgot the raid fps question, its never lower than 30 so its ok.
So maybe he 'wasn't' rockin
Fjork — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 13:09So maybe he 'wasn't' rockin the healing meters.......
Maybe he was intentionally RD'ing to get smacked so he could look good.........
hehe
lol, my bad
Phyltran (not verified) — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 11:56lol, my bad
Damn, sry for 2 posts,
Phyltran (not verified) — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 11:56Damn, sry for 2 posts, loading was so long i clicked a couple of times :(
ie:
Dufe — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 07:56ie: http://wowwebstats.com/xjvy4obokw4ru?s=295480-321898
Well i saw those...lol I
Aidin — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 09:37Well i saw those...lol
I meant our parses...Warion and I...oh wait...Warion FELL ASLEEP AT THE KEYS! lol (so so we think)
Hmmmm...I must see this.
Aidin — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 07:46Hmmmm...I must see this. (remember though last night was my first night of raiding since 3.0 came out...)
I don't know Aidin - since
Dufe — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 07:45I don't know Aidin - since 3.0.2, Garreth has been rocking the healing meters.
Given the same gear set,....
lesda — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 10:51Given the same gear set,.... I can't see any reasons why shammies would be below that of paladins in raid situation for heals.
This [41106] +
saedo — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 10:57This [41106] + http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=53563
Feel free to jump into the
Aidin — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 11:14Feel free to jump into the pally discussion at any time Mr. Pally App :)
Glyph + Beacon = Paladin all of a sudden #1? I dunno Saedo...I'm not buying it. Maybe it's fight specific? Then again, I am still learning how to be a paladin again with all the new changes.
I tried to watch things closely last night and not let things die...
I noticed that if I loaded a heal on lets say Dragon, but someone else sniped it, it healed for 0 and beacon gets nada. With chains and circles of hax flying around...they should still be on the tops.
Yea fight dependent, but it
saedo — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 12:02Yea fight dependent, but it means you can really shine or keep up with raid healing when everyone's taking damage.
I think you load up the beacon on Dragon himself. Or someone that's gonna be taking damage. Like yourself even maybe. Then go about healing the MT, others, etc. Then all heals you do will snipe on the beacon target. If it's yourself, gives you mana back too.
Looking at M'uru: http://wowwebstats.com/xjvy4obokw4ru?s=295480-321898&a=x6f00c7#break
Most of Garreth's heals were to himself.
Looks like he mostly Beacon'd himself, and Orky a couple times: http://wowwebstats.com/xjvy4obokw4ru?s=295480-321898&ab=53563
Beacon allows for some really
garreth — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 13:13Beacon allows for some really dynamic healing approaches.
Last night, I was far away from everyone healing Orky by the door. Since we're all taking damage, I Beacon'd myself knowing that I'd have to survive without help from the raid. An awesome side effect to this is that the beacon heals will trigger Spiritual Attunement and give you 10% of the heal back as mana. Also, since there a fair number of melee nearby Orky, the Glyph was going apeshit around him. Oh, and each glyph AND beacon proc CAN CRIT. At one point, I crit orky, I crit myself with beacon and 3 of the glyphs all crit. And my healing proc from the illidan mace went off.
I basically did about 27,000 points of healing IN A SINGLE HEAL. And I got most of the cost of the spell back as mana too (60% from Illumination and about 700 from the effective healing from the beacon heal on me).
I had to share this with the wowhead community: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41106#comments:id=415058
Here's the filter to show
saedo — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 13:38Here's the filter to show your glyph in action: http://wowwebstats.com/xjvy4obokw4ru?s=295480-321898&bl=295479&filter=sp...
Yea looks like only 5 proc whenever Hbk and Ewiges came around to help Orky with adds. What's interesting that I didn't know before is that it will proc on to the very target you healed with Holy Light. So basically more heals right there to him.
Yep, this proves that the
garreth — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 14:26Yep, this proves that the glyph already is only a 5 yard thing and isn't being "nerfed" in the next patch, just having it's tooltip adjusted. As it stands, it's an amazing amazing thing for paladins and something I've fallen in love with.
That is way cool G,... Anyone
lesda — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 14:49That is way cool G,...
Anyone have the parse for that Eredar fight I was on? I thought I crit healed for 14K. Wasn't sure if I used any special spell rotations for it or not.
Apparently the Guild WWS url
saedo — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 15:12Apparently the Guild WWS url has changed, Garreth ya gotta update the link: http://wowwebstats.com/4dj1lj5a5yw4e
Anyways, Twins: http://wowwebstats.com/bqzm1nct351qc?a=xd5e5f2
Looks to be 8079 was the max heal you did for the night.
Thanks for the link,... I'll
lesda — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 15:17Thanks for the link,... I'll check it out when I get home.
I have the Parrot add-on, thought I saw 14K flashed on the screen.
Parse only counts the amount healed? Difference goes to overheal maybe?
No. Are you sure it was
saedo — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 15:31No. Are you sure it was your heal?
Not sure,... but I'll study
lesda — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 15:49Not sure,... but I'll study the parse when I get home.
Thanks,
I think I realize what it is.
saedo — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 16:11I think I realize what it is. In Parrot if you get like several crits in a row very fast, it merges em together. Like 600 crit, 600 crit, 600 crit, it'll say 1800 (3 crits).
LOL,...
lesda — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 12:56LOL,...
Oh snap...pls tell me that's
Aidin — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 07:32Oh snap...pls tell me that's not HealBot I see in the corner????
Grid my friend...Grid. The single greatest healing mod EVER made. Get it!
Yes yes you beat me to it
Aidin — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 07:29Yes yes you beat me to it Fjork...I'm getting slow in my old age.
Seems like a solid app. Let me know when you go back holy so I can take a peek at your gear and your spec...your a retardin right now... /sigh
Oh and:
"in the top healers for sure, but is that cause the others are bad, i dont know?"
If the paladin is #1...the shammies, priests and druids you're running with SUCK MONKEY BALLS. Effing chain hax, haxed HoTs, and circle of hax mother f.....yea you get the point (Me bitter? noooooooooooooooo!)
What things might cause you
Fjork — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 06:29What things might cause you to leave?:
Guild disbanding, falling apart or going nowhere. Feeling not appreciated or unlike.
If Shihli tells a joke (good or bad), will you laugh?:
Yes
You should know now these two things seem to contradict each other in my mind..........
On the flip side, (I BEAT AIDIN!!!) thanks for the guild application! We can almost always find places for Healers. Especially considering we're possibly looking at two 25 man and two or more 10 man raids come WotLK.
Now for my suggestions. 5mans, Heroics, weeknights, and weekends. Just sign-up if you see an opening (I think theres a ZA this Friday...), and be online/available mon/thurs in case one of the raids needs a PUG. Hamfist and LF1M are still pretty much raiding.
Couple quick questions: Why the nearly stock UI? Raid fps?
Also, can you logout in your healing gear and link a wowhead.com copy of your healing talent build for our healers to glance at? (Trust me, I understand fully the need to stay specced ret for $$ reasons)
Thanks and good luck!
I might be biased for the pally cause I usually make petty comments (oh wait... I did...), but I wish you luck in your application.
Hi, thank you for your
Phyltran (not verified) — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 11:15Hi, thank you for your generous comments. For the nearly stock UI, i had no screenshot of me while raiding and since im not in a guild, well, im not raiding much so i just took a random screenshot of me, but usually, i simply drag the raid groups to the interface which could be fix if thats a problem for you with Grid. Yes, thats Healbot you see and im ok with it. Although i would be willing to use grid if necessary and if helped to configure. If that can increase my healing and dispelling quickness, why not. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent, thats probably what i would use in a 25 man for holy spec which is a bit different from my current spec cause im not raiding atm. Armory is still not updated atm so i'll be linking it later i guess. Thx for your time.
Stop posting the same thing
saedo — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 11:25Stop posting the same thing every 2 mins. lol I've deleted like 5 copies of it already.
I used Healbot for a
Aidin — Wed, 10/22/2008 - 11:18I used Healbot for a looooooooooooooooong time before making the switch to Grid. I was stubborn about it for so long too. Never regretted it a single day. So much more information provided and it takes up very little real estate on your screen unlike healbot and raid frames.