Tankadinging 5mans (comment)
Fjork — Wed, 11/05/2008 - 11:50
I rerolled prot last night with like 90% Avoidance to test out the new prot spec, my gear, etc, etc.
No, I'm not at the 490 so the bosses could still crit (459).
I ran into a very serious problem though. I wasn't really getting hit, but it appeared sanctuary wasn't giving me the mana back that it should have. Was this because the single-target mobs were only hitting 'oh-so-often'?
After trying the first set of six with Cons only in my first rotation of threat-gen, then holding it I was still always nearly OOM at the end of the fight.
So with the next six, I attempted dropping Consecration completely and focusing on blowing my CDs on the rest of my spells as soon as they came up. Not nearly as bad as the first six, but still having mana issues. I was OOM by the time the boss spawned and told the party to just wait.
On the final six, I stopped using Holy Shield. Completely. BoS appeared to grant more, and even with the occacionaly crit from the final boss, I still never dropped below about 6k (half-life) from the Priest's healing. Since I was being healed, I was at nearly full mana the entire time. I used Cons at a constant and started wielding Martyr as opposed to Vengeance and/or Wisdom.
I'd like to know if anyone else has experienced similar issues with being 'to geared' since this latest patch. Due to the massive dodge/def rating I had for a relatively low-gear requirement instance, I wasn't taking the damage I needed to get the healz I needed for mana (thus threat-gen). Yet when I stopped using Holy Shield (our bread/butter), my threat-gen and mana availability were maxed.
Opinions?
So, this definitely sounds
Epatrick — Wed, 11/05/2008 - 15:57So, this definitely sounds like a case of you being way too geared for said instance. in situations like that, max your block value to w/e you can get it to, equip a high dps/low tank stat weapon. The more you block, the more mana you get back. Or you could not be a pussy and pull more....seriously, if you're having mana issues just pull more mobs. shield is instant so just start a pull, get it to half health (oh, don't forget your CC. you know what CC is right?) and trundle along, target next pack, throw your shield and come back. you can also tell your priest to stop bubbling you. bubbling sounds like a good idea to a priest (especially deep discipline) but it's not. bubble : no dmg taken : no SA : fucked. all things considered, you could probably just tell your priest to throw out smites, judge light and keep yourself healed. (SoL right now is compensating for our nerfed threat by adding every heal to our threat table from all melee/ranged hits)
Also, consider getting the boosted SA glyph, it's like a mini 2 pc. t6 bonus, and that 2 pc is win. WIN I SAY.
p.s. remember :
heh. Hard to 'pull more'
Fjork — Thu, 11/06/2008 - 08:44heh. Hard to 'pull more' when the Hunter doesn't believe that in BM adds are FOR the prot pally. lol. However I did attempt to keep all the threat. :D
This was BM though, can't chain pull b/c the next elite doesn't spawn until the first is dead. :p
"SoL right now is compensating for our nerfed threat by adding every heal to our threat table from all melee/ranged hits"
That, I did NOT know about. Thanks for the information.
I just yesterday found out how massive the difference between using a 'melee' weapon and using a 'spell' weapon is. I'm gonna keep my spell weapon, but I'm definitely going to start using the HH sword more.
I don't even consecrate
Epatrick — Thu, 11/06/2008 - 12:11I don't even consecrate anymore if there aren't more than two adds up, since my hammer will hit all three and with SoV on my stacks are at five if I'm constantly tabbing for a melee hit on another one. I barely use my HoJ at all unless the pack pull is more than 7 or 8 because the AP-SP is so good as well as the stamina-SP.
How does this spec look?
Fjork — Thu, 11/06/2008 - 14:43How does this spec look? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZaxVA0dMtTIRGoxo
I'm trying to wrap my head around the new threat generation and since Holy Shield isn't really part of it anymore.... :x I was thinking about dropping one more point off of redoubt (or both) and shifting them to either 2/2 Guardian's Favor, or 1/2 Guardian's Favor and the extra point in Improved Judgements.
Aidin's asked me to tank KZ on Sunday, and my gear is a kitten's scratching post compared to a few of our DPSers, so I'm aiming more at threat than anything.