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WWS DW spec?

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Romniknight — Tue, 12/02/2008 - 09:15

Last night durring my trolling session i came across this WWS parse http://wowwebstats.com/srwlzdbfucqcs

The offender is this Deathknight

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Khadgar&n=Hymn

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*IF* I were to go a DW spec -

Shihli — Tue, 12/02/2008 - 11:03

*IF* I were to go a DW spec - which I wouldn't - it might look something like this:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMqG0IcboxzoZG0cZfM0uxck

Icy Touch and Plague Strike set up the runic power dumps for Gargoyle, and Heart Strike is set for your primary damage ability.  Necrosis and Blood-Caked Blade add in about 8% damage done total to the set.  Death Rune Mastery in case your diseases are fine after a rotation and you want to get more Heart Strikes or Blood Strikes.  Numerous +strength% bonuses.

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Double Rune of the Fallen

Dragon — Tue, 12/02/2008 - 11:08

Double Rune of the Fallen Crusader I'd imagine for weapon enchants?

Edit: Oh and *sigh* why does everyone underestimate Bloodworms so much when it comes to making dps specs ><

Bloodworms is really good for

everstar — Tue, 12/02/2008 - 11:35

Bloodworms is really good for soloing mobs. they are not that great at 80 compared to the other abilities you can get or use the bloodworm points to put in something else.

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I was just thinking when

Dragon — Tue, 12/02/2008 - 11:39

I was just thinking when compared to talents like Runetap

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Dead dps does no

Shihli — Tue, 12/02/2008 - 11:43

Dead dps does no damage.  Rune tap is essentially a free health pot without "potion sickness".

I could have used Bloodworms, but given the amount of AoE damage that ... well, everything does, the worms would die before they had a chance to do jack.  Plus, Had to throw in about 2-3 talent points into Blood as fluff to get to Hysteria/Heart Strike anyway.

exactly what he said  ^^

everstar — Tue, 12/02/2008 - 11:46

exactly what he said  ^^

hmm duel wield

everstar — Tue, 12/02/2008 - 09:35

hmm duel wield spec..interesting.  their gems are a little goofy too..and their spec is................ *gets ready to say something*   ............

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Didn't bother looking at

Shihli — Tue, 12/02/2008 - 09:45

Didn't bother looking at their gems, but just their spec.  If they wanted to go DW spec they'd have gone deeper into Blood to beef up their physical attacks, and spared most of the points in Unholy.

Joke spec.  Odds are that the WWS parses are for them utilizing a single-target Blood dps spec.

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I would be quick to agree

Dragon — Tue, 12/02/2008 - 10:08

I would be quick to agree with you shihli except that I looked into the actual boss fight for said DK. All the abilities used are covered in the spec that he currently is on the armory with nothing out of place.

In fact, the only thing that is not counted for when looking at the WWS is his 13 points in Blood, however there is no other data in the parse that can sufficiently disprove those 13 points.

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After taking a deeper look

Shihli — Tue, 12/02/2008 - 10:30

After taking a deeper look into the parses, you're right - his abilities are covered for that spec.

Still, bad spec is bad spec.  His dps on the boss is not spectacular compared to the rest of his raid - even though he's doing comparable damage, look at the hard numbers for the boss kill itself.

Biggest contributor to damage is white damage (27% contributor), which he missed 21.5% of the time.  When he did hit it was for piddly (avg of 547) so the spec takes the shotgun approach to white damage - swing as fast as possible and hope that some of them hit (hence the icy talons spec, even though they have a shaman in the raid).

Next is Howling Blast (16% contributor), which he only used nine times.  Hit for an average of 3.5k, which isn't bad, but when it's only used nine times in a fairly long fight like Sartharion (285 seconds) ... that means he used it once every 30 seconds.  As opposed to the roughly once every 10 seconds he *could* be using it given rune cooldowns.

After that is Ebon Gargoyle, which he used as his runic power dump.  It's a good one, however it only contributed 11% of his damage.  Icy Touch did fair damage but missed nearly 8% of the time.

He may well have done good dps, but not stellar (as compared to the rest of his raid).  He would likely have been better served by a deep-blood 2H spec, or at the very least a Frost Strike spec that focuses more deeply on fueling Frost Strike with runic power and using Annihilation and Obliterate for big in-between hits.  Plus, he'd get more out of Icy Talons white damage and would have to worry less about missing any attacks.

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Not disagreeing with you

Dragon — Tue, 12/02/2008 - 10:42

Not disagreeing with you there, he definitely would have been better served as a more convetional spec. I was merely pointing out that he really was that spec he was talented for on the armory.

I refuse to go back and look at his spec anymore though just because its painful and I really don't want to end work with a headache ><

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Ya I was thinking the same

Dragon — Tue, 12/02/2008 - 09:40

Ya I was thinking the same thing about their spec everstar

lol its just...ridiculous. i

everstar — Tue, 12/02/2008 - 09:49

lol its just...ridiculous. i honestly dont think they know what they are doing haha. i dont really want to look at it again, it will hurt my head lol...well time for lunch! mm foods!!!!!!

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