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Arcane Spec

Alprazalam — Mon, 01/26/2009 - 21:25

Just wandering if anyone in Guild has tried Arcane Spec since the patch.  I've been thinking about trying it out one night when we go back to Naxx (this week we're doing maly shots).  It basically depends on if Triebryn will be there to do scorches if I roll it next week.  But if anyone has, was wandering wandering about what your mp5 is, and how many ret pallies/shadow priests you've had in raid, and if you could tell a substantial DPS increase.  I've heard rumours its currently better then frostfire and I haven't had the chance to get on elitist jerks to read up on it.

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So now that i've gotten a

Alprazalam — Thu, 02/05/2009 - 00:19

So now that i've gotten a chance to look at parses and comparing Arcane DPS to Frostfire DPS, I can only say one thing  GO ARCANE!!!   I know I haven't gotten everything down pat, but it is amazing.  If you want, compare 2/4 and 2/3 parses with previous Sal'mon parses.  I know some fights I sucked out on but hey, I'm still figuring it out.  and BTW, if ya'll look and see anything that I'm doing wrong, I'm always open to tips.

Yea, just going to go ahead

Alprazalam — Sun, 02/01/2009 - 17:20

Yea, just going to go ahead and say it, I'm going arcane this week for raid.  I do need to get a few different pieces of gear (right now I'm WAY over hit cap and I need more haste).  I have talked to Atar and he said as long as Triebryn is there to scorch then its cool.  So for mage in Kittenbrigade that really wants to see about how much (or less =P) DPS Arcane does, just check my parses of this coming week for Sal'mon and compare the previous weeks.  I will also say it is the first time I've been arcane, so the first couple of bosses will be more of a learning experience, but I think I've shot dummies in If and read Elitist Jerks to know what to do.

BTW, if anyone looks at my parses and sees away for me to increase my DPS as Arcane, please feel free to tell me. 

i will throw out what i know

Sorreah — Thu, 01/29/2009 - 10:54

i will throw out what i know

since the mini patch it is not as crazy as it was for the first week

it is still more dps than frost fire but not more than a 25 main raid will gain overall with the scorches rolling

it is a mana managment spec where timing of evocates becomes key

 

the more replenish you have the less you have to manage so the more pew pew you get but even with 0 replenish in the group you will gain personal dps

Since we have replinishment

Alprazalam — Wed, 01/28/2009 - 23:15

Since we have replinishment down..... has ANYONE gone arcane yet??

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I absolutely HATE arcane.

Shinso — Thu, 02/05/2009 - 01:33

I absolutely HATE arcane.

Arcane was alot of fun for me

Disrupter — Thu, 02/05/2009 - 09:54

Arcane was alot of fun for me before they changed, when I had optimized on gear for it/etc and learned when to slow it down a bit and such. Now I have no idea how to work arcane D: QQ.

Its sort of like before, but

Alprazalam — Thu, 02/05/2009 - 15:58

Its sort of like before, but Arcane Missles then ABarr instead of frostbolt.  The AB debuff increases the damage of your arcane spells by like 30% (can't remember right off the top of my head, but that sounds about right) and is consumed by other arcane spells such as Abarr, AM, and even AE.  The only part I'm actually having problems with is Evocating on the last second of IV.  I pop IV at the very beginning and normally its off CD so I can pop it again with a heroism, but I really don't need the Evo at the beginning and I normally save Evo until right before 30% (when Atar likes to call heroism) so I can get the max dps out of the the heroism, but, the way I've been doing it, I haven't had any mana problems, I've been scared when theres like 5% left on the boss and I'm at 6-7k mana, but somehow I don't go OOM until the very end, which is how its supposed to be for max DPS.

 

Shinso can hate on Arcane all he wants, I see my DPS go up so whatever.

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I spec that uses like 5

Shinso — Thu, 02/05/2009 - 19:12

I spec that uses like 5 optimal rotations is not fun. Its just stupid what you do in which situations for max dps.

how bout you

Felsteel — Thu, 01/29/2009 - 09:44

(solja boy tone) YOU

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If your raid runs with 2 or

Dragon — Tue, 01/27/2009 - 06:44

If your raid runs with 2 or more Ret Paladins/Shadowpriests (who you still want to be in a group with)/Survival Hunters with replenishment, you should be under the effects of replenishment all the time since out of a 25m raid you can guess that at least 5 people will use rage/energy/runic power and thus will not get the buff.

This is of course assuming that they never miss

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Replenishment does not

saedo — Tue, 01/27/2009 - 11:39

Replenishment does not stack.   You need 15 non-mana users in raid to "always" have that buff on you.

The benefits of having more than one replenisher is only to do more frequent checks to switch to the lowest 10 mana pools.

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Ah so here's the trick to

saedo — Wed, 01/28/2009 - 11:56

Ah so here's the trick to replenishment.

When the switch occurs, it does not remove the buff from players.   It comes up with 10, then either refreshes the buff if they're still bottom, and puts it on new ones, while letting old ones just expire normally.    So although more than 10 can have the buff, only 10 will ever have it at it's maximum duration (15 sec).

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Ah ok, I thought it ignored

Dragon — Thu, 01/29/2009 - 06:21

Ah ok, I thought it ignored players who already had the buff. My bad saedo, I never realize cause well, I'm one of the replenishment bots :D

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ill explain what i meant

Dragon — Tue, 01/27/2009 - 11:56

ill explain what i meant after class

 

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