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What do you think about no flying for an entire expansion?
YES) It makes me feel more immersed in the game lore.
15%
YES) It encourages more PvP! (Please explain how in comments)
5%
YES) I miss riding my ground mounts.
9%
MAYBE) If you make all of my flying mounts able to be ground too.
8%
MAYBE) if ground mounts are sped up to 200% speed (or higher)
26%
NO) I don't have enough time when I'm on to be riding everywhere
7%
NO) I have spent too much time getting various levels of flying to be wasting it.
11%
NO) It encourages more PVP! (please explain in the comments)
0%
NO) I love flying.
19%
Total votes: 74
I'd say yes, but only because
Dufe — Thu, 03/05/2009 - 16:47I'd say yes, but only because my repertoire of completely f'd up stories needs refreshing.
word guys :)
chrislow — Wed, 03/04/2009 - 12:54word guys :)
Chris. I have a way to get
Enixa — Wed, 03/04/2009 - 12:20Chris. I have a way to get you back in guild. You ready? Are you REALLY ready tho? Fine....
If we do NOT invite Chrislow into guild by FRIDAY of this week I will literally type gquit in my text bar on wow.
These are my threats. Be warned!
why wait until Friday Turf...
Shinzwei — Wed, 03/04/2009 - 19:35why wait until Friday Turf...
I think that one moral we can
Katibug — Wed, 03/04/2009 - 11:07I think that one moral we can get from this would be to talk things out with your peers.
Nhia fed Chrislow hate and lies in order to get him to come to the darkside. She somehow convinced him that everyone in guild hated him. I think that if he had just spoken to Garreth, Shihli, Quis (Keis at the time) or someone, anyone, he would have seen that those were all lies and that we all really enjoyed having him in guild.
Sooo... talk out your difficulties and life will be better! I'm game for allowing him back, I just hope he learned from that silly mistake and will seek a second opinion before making a decision.
I think Garreth hates me...
Ardea — Wed, 03/04/2009 - 11:20I think Garreth hates me... :p
I remember Chrislow's last
Ardea — Wed, 03/04/2009 - 11:01I remember Chrislow's last raid with us... Sunwell and that hot resto ring droped (the best in game for a priest or druid). I cannot remember who won the roll but despite Garreth really trying to get him to take the ring ("are you sure" x3) he passed it to me. The next day (it felt like) I found out he was gone and I was sad.
Welcome back to the server, you have my vote!
I think we, and Chris, can
garreth — Wed, 03/04/2009 - 10:58I think we, and Chris, can all agree that he's still an asshole. Do I have consensus on this?
I hate you you made me make
Disrupter — Tue, 03/03/2009 - 14:37Well from what I recall was a consistant and not completely terribad priest healer we had in Hamfist's ranks for a while. My concern, is the reason he left Downfall for another guild an suddenly wants back in. Why did you leave us? Why do you want back in? Why should we take you back in after you left us, if most of us haven't a real idea as to why you left.
I had heard what happened when you did finally xfer, and how you ended up coming back to wow guildless because of Nhia but, why'd you leave with her in the first place?
I get you guys. Definitely. I
chrislow — Tue, 03/03/2009 - 17:29I get you guys. Definitely. I left because i'm a horrible person irl. I was definitely under the impression that I wasn't welcome any longer, but that wasn't you guys' fault at all, you guys were nothing but awesome. I know this isn't only Garreth's guild, it's all of you guys' guild. So if I'm unwelcome by one then it may as well be all. So be it, those are the consequences. Vulk, Shinz I don't blame you guys at all :). I would like to at the very least apologize for how and why I left. I know it seemed really shady, but it made sense to me at the time.
And if any new member reads this then let it be a lesson you don't have to learn the hard way - this is a one of a kind guild and thank your good fortunes to be here. Don't be this guy.
I didn't say I don't want you
Disrupter — Tue, 03/03/2009 - 17:37I didn't say I don't want you back in guild buddie I just want to know why you left and want back in. The whole reason I'm even in downfall was because someone did, what I think happened to you but I wanted some confirmation ><;. I was originally in Linkshell, a guildy had convinced me he had about everyone in our guild that I raided with merging with another and that the RL in said guild hated me so... I switched to lush and got bored with content leveled rupter guilds died etc and wallah im here :D. So I should thank ioptex ;p. Anyways, not my choice either way but if you do it again ILL COME TO YOUR PLACE AND HIT YOU. YEAH! /ebully
I shared Rupta's curiosity
garreth — Tue, 03/03/2009 - 18:03I shared Rupta's curiosity and I'll go ahead an put it out there so Chris doesn't have to type it:
A certain unstable shammy with daddy issues that we used to raid with convinced Chris that we all hated him. And since she had boobs, this somehow lent more legitimacy to those claims than us telling Chris we thought he was rad. So she convinced him to bail and transfer to different group of "hardcore" raiders who were way nicer than us. Of course she's a psycho hosebeast and most likely directly contributed to THAT new guild on that new server collapsing a few short months later.
So, yay dirty laundry. To recap: Chrislow likes boobs, is a dumb guy and has such self-esteem issues that a BLATANT sociopath convinced him we all hate him. And we don't hate him. We hate Pyrael.
I didn't feel like it was my
Dragon — Wed, 03/04/2009 - 10:05I didn't feel like it was my place for bringing up his reasons for leaving which is why I didn't before, but I do have something to say about it.
That being I think we should give him a second chance. Men are known for doing stupid shit in the name of females (not saying all females are bad or that men are in any way are innocent) but I don't believe that one slip in judgment should condemn someone. Frankly, I had many a good time rocking out some island pvp or watching Chris solo heal kara and I am in favor of giving him a second chance.
Its one thing to make a mistake, it is another to admit that you were wrong making that mistake.
I swear this is my last rant.
Shinzwei — Tue, 03/03/2009 - 18:33I swear this is my last rant. I guess I'll play the bad guy here. Yup it was Nhia who convinced Chris that he wasnt wanted here anymore. It was Nhia who made Chris app to the super guild with her. It was Nhia who told him to go ahead and leave DF and join her in the greener pastures ahead. It was Nhia who server tansferred Chris off to be with them. It was Nhia who promised Chris more boobies. It was Pyrael who we all hated all along. It was Me who took the cookies from the cookie jar. Anyways what I'm trying to say is that everyone makes mistakes. But DF has tons of boobies. Who can we say this wont happen again? Fool us once shame on you fool us twice shame on us.
PS: I'd leave DF for Rachael Ray anyday ;)
Cookies? mmmmm. If his worst
jaibyrd — Tue, 03/10/2009 - 14:51Cookies? mmmmm.
If his worst crime is he listened to someone who made not only him but several people in the guild run in circles for awhile I don't see the issue.
Shin, your post kinda got me
garreth — Tue, 03/03/2009 - 18:41Shin, your post kinda got me thinking about all the people that g/wow-quit and then come back. And, honestly, we're not vindictive fucks so we generally say "Welcome back! Roll a healer!" Some names off the top of my head (remember, these are people I like!):
And every single one of them I'm glad to have back. Can we add Chris to that list?
WOW I KNEW YOU DIDNT LIKE ME
Agoney — Wed, 03/04/2009 - 12:40WOW I KNEW YOU DIDNT LIKE ME /QUIT :P
no love
moriella — Wed, 03/04/2009 - 00:05you forgot me :P - I took a wow vacation, was taken off the roster while I was gone, then allowed back in
I totally understand why
Derchlon — Wed, 03/04/2009 - 00:41I totally understand why someone would leave if they thought we all hated them. I'm all for inviting him back.
P.S. I wouldn't Gquit for boobs. I'd make the boobs join the guild.
Prim never quit. He was on a
Shinzwei — Tue, 03/03/2009 - 18:45Prim never quit. He was on a year long honey moon. And where the hell is Darksight...
I just sent 'Sight's computer
garreth — Tue, 03/03/2009 - 18:47I just sent 'Sight's computer out in the mail today. He'll have it tomorrow and likely be on WoW then :) Also, Shin, he mentioned something about "big spoon"..
Before we invite Lesda back
Shihli — Tue, 03/03/2009 - 18:42Before we invite Lesda back he must prove that he's capable of jumping
Chris, how's your spacebar?
garreth — Tue, 03/03/2009 - 18:43Chris, how's your spacebar?
I just bought a brand new
chrislow — Tue, 03/03/2009 - 20:10I just bought a brand new space bar what a coincidence that you should ask!
White Squares Can't Jump
Dragon — Wed, 03/04/2009 - 10:23White Squares Can't Jump
/hangs head in shame
jaibyrd — Tue, 03/10/2009 - 14:50/hangs head in shame
HOLY SHIT HE CAN JUMP!! bring
Aidin — Wed, 03/04/2009 - 10:18HOLY SHIT HE CAN JUMP!! bring that mofo back!!! I missed you Chris!!!
Shin you like playing devil's advocate dontchya? lol Let's say he comes back and leaves again for BooBs...so what...is it really any skin off your back? Come into the light Shin!!!!!!!
Based on my conversations
Shihli — Tue, 03/03/2009 - 18:34Based on my conversations with him, I'd be willing to take a risk inviting him back. Plus, he's going away from the game shortly for an indefinite period of time anyway - if he does this again, we're no worse for the wear than when he came back.
Second'd
Shihli — Tue, 03/03/2009 - 18:18Second'd
At the risk of sounding
garreth — Tue, 03/03/2009 - 09:48At the risk of sounding cheesy, Chris' leaving wasn't really his fault. Though he does pick horrible, horrible people to hang out with. (Like coming back to Downfall. ZING!) And he did about the classiest thing I've ever seen anyone do after getting kicked ;) I know you've got to ship out to Hell in about two months, but could you be on regularly on your tank or shadow priest in the meantime?