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Kitten Brigade - fresh Ulduar (and VoA if possible)

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Ulduar 25man

Time for more Kitten Brigade.

On the menu:

1)  VoA if able, at start or end of night.

2)  4-tower Flame Leviathan.

3)  (if needed) Ignis and Razorscale as "lag test".

4)  Hard-mode XT002.

5)  Kologarn.

6)  Auriaya.

Tue, 06/30/2009 - 11:30
Tue, 06/30/2009 - 15:00
8 individuals signed up
Shihli
saedo
h4mm32
primistic
Desteran
pulga
caramun
Atakheal
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To check on Ignis:

saedo — Wed, 07/01/2009 - 10:30

To check on Ignis:

  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-ignis-1246417358/index.html - 80,729 dps, 4m08s
  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-ignis-1245814909/index.html - 85,698 dps, 3m50s
  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-ignis-1245212861/index.html - 82,244 dps, 3m59s
  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-ignis-1244602186/index.html - 83,399 dps, 3m58s

We were a bit slower, but only 3K dps off the last 3 week's averages.  

 

Razorscale:

  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-razorscale-1246416241/index.html - 52,380 dps, 7m05s
  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-razorscale-1245813772/index.html - 56,757 dps, 6m41s
  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-razorscale-1245211876/index.html - 52,104 dps, 7m02s
  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-razorscale-1244600934/index.html - 53,193 dps, 7m02s

Overall about the same.  Technically only 1.5K dps off the previous averages.

 

Kologarn:

  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-kologarn-1246419229/index.html - 93,740 dps, 3m35s
  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-kologarn-1245898953/index.html - 93,023 dps, 3m29s
  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-kologarn-1245291511/index.html - 88,776 dps, 3m40s
  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-kologarn-1244608477/index.html - 92,930 dps, 3m30s

Again pretty similar.  Though, actually higher in dps by about 2K, it's not faster kill, slower by about 2 sec average.   That leads to believe that there was more splash damage on stuff we didn't need to kill.

 

Auriaya: 

  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-auriaya-1246420894/index.html - 91,508 dps, 3m47s
  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-auriaya-1245900097/index.html - 82,213 dps, 4m15s
  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-auriaya-1245293729/index.html - 79,516 dps, 4m24s
  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-auriaya-1244609682/index.html - 79,567 dps, 4m19s

Best kill yet, well in the recent weeks I checked.   What I believe happened here is the 5 tremor totems.   Managed to get the most dps time with em down.    5 shamans every week go!

 

Thorim:

  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-thorim-1246421720/index.html - 63,878 dps, 6m25s
  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-thorim-1245467369/index.html - 62,423 dps, 6m34s
  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-thorim-1244865615/index.html - 59,294 dps, 6m51s
  • http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-thorim-1244258595/index.html - 53,853 dps, 5m51s

DPS wise despite the few deaths, well like every week, is our best, about 5K avg more.   Though timewise it was, well it was right on average.   This probably simply means aoe wise we were better tonight  Thorim himself was average.

 

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13,126 files: 

saedo — Wed, 07/01/2009 - 01:32

13,126 files:  http://stats.downfallguild.org/kb/sws-overall-1246413275/index.html

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I'm really happy with those

garreth — Tue, 06/30/2009 - 23:21

I'm really happy with those XT numbers. Granted, it's a lot shorter than our usual hard mode. However, seeing Vit that close to Forshurley is a good start.

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Well curious about our Heart

saedo — Wed, 07/01/2009 - 01:28

Well curious about our Heart dps, here's the splits of the last 3 of em:

  • Tonight:  http://wowwebstats.com/ufsf6ciajhknq?s=217836-224211
  • Last week:  http://wowwebstats.com/l4wihuo2gq5ym?s=166664-174857
  • Week Before:  http://wowwebstats.com/5kotkd3umog5a?s=67979-76089

We were probably 60-70K dps off from an actual Heartbreak.   But, we didn't have Heroism.   People probably did hold back in order to not accidentally break it.   And, we ran 2 tanks to deal with adds.

Comparing DPS from week to week to week:

  1. Primistic:  16,952 -> 16,755 -> 16,852 - It's virtually the same each week, well actually slightly higher this week.  Heroism not a big impact?   Or man, did you jump dps this week to negate the heroism loss.
  2. Nuitarin:  17,036 -> 17,716 -> 15,544 - This week and last week are about the same, again, like Prim.
  3. Saedo:  15,614 -> 21,708 -> 17,511 - My gear should be slightly better this week, so I blame Heroism.   Popped my speed pots and all, and haste synergizes with me very very well.
  4. Onrique:  14,189 -> 18,050 -> 16,286 - Prob just missing heroism
  5. Knoppix:  12,379 -> 13,156 -> 12,738 - Actually quite steady so I suppose hearing how haste sucks for spriests is probably showing here
  6. Quisjaa:  12,629 -> 23,599 -> 19,837 - Probably lack of Army of Dead + Heroism
  7. Deadhli:  11,524 -> 17,342 -> 16,885 - See above
  8. Luminaire:  10,728 -> 14,737 -> 14,085
  9. Sturm:  10,399 -> 10,179 - Upgrades to negate heroism?   Or sucks for pallies?
  10. Forsurely:  12,335 -> 12,154 -> 13,493 - Same question as above, but replace it with locks.  Though, I don't think heroism sucks
  11. Vulk:  10,502 -> 14,356 -> 13,719 - Ok Vulk shows there's probably significance in Heroism
  12. Luczilla:  10,099 -> 10,644 - Might be the enchants/gems upgrades that negated Heroism
  13. Grasen:  9,953 -> 16,513 -> 12,289
  14. Noboru:  9,422
  15. Disrupta:  8,983 -> 15,284 -> 16,214
  16. Vitriola:  9,078 -> 11,426
  17. Zariyah:  7,188
  18. Serbitar:  6,222
  19. Pudolski:  4,307 -> 5,684 -> 6,581
  20. Orky:  3,899 -> 8,174 - Prot today
  21. Garreth:  3,144 -> 3,062 -> 4,310
  22. Dangly:  2,542
  23. Zildo:  2,633 -> 3,479 -> 3,098
  24. Cromaniac 0
  25. Amelia 0

Judging from this, if we had 1 tank, if we had Heroism, if we all gone all buck wild, we could've probably gained at least 3995.5 + 2979 + 568 + 9089 + 5589.5 + 3683 + 3535.5 + 4448 + 6766 + 2348 + 1825.5 + 4275 + 655.5

= 49757.5 more dps

Still 10-20K dps off, but this is just based on past averages.   It should be higher, because well a few of us got gear upgrades so quite possible to beat the weeks before.    2 healers didn't dps at all this time around.   Also, had no benchmark for at least 3 of the players.   So between the 5 of them, if they could average 2-4K dps more each with Heroism, Heart would be broken.   And if the ones I caught that had dps that matched the weeks before can still improve with Heroism....

Well this is mere speculation from a dps point of view only.   Might not have actually have had the healers to easily one shot it.

Glad to see someone else

Knoppix (not verified) — Wed, 07/01/2009 - 13:25

Glad to see someone else noticed haste has a very very minimal gain for spriests.

Atakheal's picture

i missed that part of dps,

Atakheal — Wed, 07/01/2009 - 10:00

i missed that part of dps, sorry about it, i dont know what i was thinking lol.... heal?

saedo's picture

Read the post again.

saedo — Wed, 07/01/2009 - 10:02

Read the post again.

The 9k dps heart phase was

Disrupter — Wed, 07/01/2009 - 06:31

The 9k dps heart phase was two factors... one eclipse was on cd until the last short period of the heart... two treants were also on cd etc... I coulda done double the dps basically if I just saved my treants/starfall for that period... I'll do better next time.

saedo's picture

Well we weren't trying to

saedo — Wed, 07/01/2009 - 09:46

Well we weren't trying to break the heart so it doesn't matter.   I was just speculating a what if.   Did we have the dps despite all the fillins?

saedo's picture

Remember its 3 Heart Phases

saedo — Wed, 07/01/2009 - 00:11

Remember its 3 Heart Phases to ramp up dps.

But iirc, we were at 16% for the heart without Heroism.

Atakheal's picture

i first in healing!!

Atakheal — Tue, 06/30/2009 - 22:25

i first in healing!!

saedo's picture

Parses: 

saedo — Tue, 06/30/2009 - 21:42

Parses:  http://wowwebstats.com/ufsf6ciajhknq

 

10K Heart Dps!  http://wowwebstats.com/ufsf6ciajhknq?s=204765-243383

Onrique's picture

my thoughts

Onrique — Tue, 06/30/2009 - 22:32

For what it's worth, it seemed overall to be a well paced raid and our fill-ins seemed to do reasonably well (some better than others). Granted we didn't go after any hard-modes, we still seemed to be a solid raid for the most part. We made more progress than our previous non-hardmode nights considering a 45 minute late start and about a 40 minute early finish.

I think a lot of our ill-feelings are due to the fact that we expect such a high level from ourselves as a raid, and we have fallen short of what our capabilities are lately. I'd say about half of that is due to the bad timing of people's vacations/schedule conflicting events. The fact is that 95% of the guilds on this server would KILL to have a raid that functioned the way ours did tonight. Despite recents events, we continue to be in the top-tier of guilds out there.

Sure, we've got about 20% of the raid that needs to catch up, wether it be gear, rotations or expirience. I know it's not fun to have to backtrack and re-learn, re-teach and re-gear... but it's kinda like the NBA. You can't win a championship with your starters. You need a deep bench that you can fall-back on when things get hairy.

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I was interested in if our

garreth — Tue, 06/30/2009 - 23:15

I was interested in if our situation is unique to us. Check out the front page of the Gorg forums. A dozen guilds all suffering from terrible attendance and all recruiting.  Let's take this opportunity to rebuild stronger than ever.

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I'd screenshot it but the

Shihli — Wed, 07/01/2009 - 00:02

I'd screenshot it but the forums are far too long, regardless - the following guilds/raids are recruiting, and mind you - this is just the front page.

(A)Downfall - some dps
(A)Redemption - some dps
(H)Kill Order - holy paladins
(A)Afterlife - healers of any kind
(A)Midnight Reveries - warlock, moonkin, arms/fury warrior
(A)random 10man raid - dps for hard modes
(H)Heavyhitters - healers of any kind
Two prot pallies (one horde, one alliance) both looking for raids
(A)Adapt - 1 tank, 4-5 ranged dps, 2 healers
(A)Tempest - DK, Shaman, Warrior, Warlock, Hunter

Again, that's just the front page.  And that's a total of 9 guilds recruiting heaps of people explicitly for 25man raids, and of those 9, 7 are alliance.

And I know Rawgrlgrlgrrgle is recruiting too, and a bit desperate at that if they're going to leech someone like Adoron for their main raids.

cant make it

poisondonut — Tue, 06/30/2009 - 17:25

i am hanging out with a friend i havent seen in a long time. catch ya'll tomorrow.

 I have to leave at 9:20

Epatrick — Tue, 06/30/2009 - 17:24

 I have to leave at 9:20 today to pick up a surprise person from the airport...Dun Dun DUUUUUUNNNNNN

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Galen??!!!

Saja — Tue, 06/30/2009 - 18:44

Galen??!!!

My status for this raid is

Ghli — Tue, 06/30/2009 - 14:02

My status for this raid is unknown at the moment. I'll give an update in the next 2 - 3 hours.

I am highly unlikely to be

Ghli — Tue, 06/30/2009 - 17:37

I am highly unlikely to be raidable tonight, even if i am online. I would be going afk between 5-25 minutes at times. Fill my spot if KB goes.

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reminder I'm out for this

starstalker — Tue, 06/30/2009 - 13:54

reminder I'm out for this lockout

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comp

forshurley — Tue, 06/30/2009 - 11:49

My computer still freezing. So i guess its not a software issue but a hardware  issue. i will try and set up my lap top to raid while i fix my desk top but might take some time. will keep you all posted.

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