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saedo — Wed, 09/02/2009 - 23:00Parses: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-5Nudry8FGHZLTJ87/
There's also a couple new facts thrown out by people I thought I'd mention...
Icehowl's rage is not tranq'able. So a fail means quickly pop external CDs on the tank or he dies.
Also, Icehowl is no longer tauntable. So a dead tank means probably several raid dps dead and less likely to beat him before enrage.
To re-iterate some points.
saedo — Wed, 09/02/2009 - 15:38To re-iterate some points.
Everyone is saying Northrend Beasts is the hardest hard mode in there, 10 man at least, and so far on the 25 man too. Not cause of any execution tricks or anything, but more because it's a goddamn gear check. Guilds are barely even making the enrage timer for the kill with everyone up. No one can afford to die.
So for tonight, we gotta go all out. Everyone with their pots, everything they can use. Don't even rely on Fish Feasts, it gives AP/SP yea. But if you're a class that benefits more from other stats, like agi, arp, str, etc, go farm up food for that!
Anyways, for the fights, based on the reports....
Gormok:
If we can get by with 2 tanks we should... But if we can't, this course puts the dps constraints higher. People are saying the snobalds aren't as important I suppose, put 3 dps on them constantly. Only if a snobald is on melee does everyone go for it.
Might as well use Heroism here to burn it faster and it's the only one we get full 100% dps time on for most of us.
We have 2.5 mins before the Worms show up, but some have said they'll show up at 15% hp. One of the OT that's not tanking anymore, be ready to pick up Dreadscale. Hopefully BoP still removes the bleeds, I haven't got a report saying otherwise.
Acidmaw and Dreadscale:
Some groups are saying they gotta die together, but others say if you can heal through the Impale, you can heal through the enrage.
Anyways, if we're still on Gormok at this time. One of you ranged should tank Acidmaw, the one rooted to the ground.
If we're gonna try healing through enrage, then after Gormok, we all burn Acidmaw down. Some groups were able to burn him down before (or slightly after) he burrows.
Then move on to Dreadscale. During this time, Icehowl may appear, so the original Acidmaw tank (not the ranged one) has to pick him up while we continue on Dreadscale.
Icehowl:
Well he hits harder. Anyways, we don't have the speed buff anymore, so gotta react and move faster.
Not sure if this is a bug or not, but there are reports that he'll start charging before the stun wears off making even less room for error.
And another report has him changing course and continue charging the targetted guy.
Well either way this means prepare for some deaths and Hunters should probably be spamming Tranq shot as they come out of stuns just in case.
There is an enrage. DPS race go!
Anyways, that's all I got for now, everyone come prepared.
So guys, for everyone with a
saedo — Wed, 09/02/2009 - 15:09So guys, for everyone with a gear path plan that's hoarding for ilvl 258 loot.
I have a report that the ilvl 258 tokens DO NOT drop from the heroic bosses, instead they are still dropping ilvl 245 trophies.
In the 10 man though, the Tribute box dropped 4 ilvl 245 trophies.
So if we were to extrapolate that, it means T9 ilvl 258 will only come in a FULL CLEAR of hard mode. Maybe 4 as well. Maybe 8? Maybe 10? No one knows yet, Ensidia seems to be the closest, and we may find out from them by tonight.
We have 44 more tries for a chance at T9 ilvl 258.
End of message.
i will be there tonight
Epatrick — Wed, 09/02/2009 - 11:30i will be there tonight pending my boss bitching at me again about me inconveniently ruining her pax plans...if she wanted to go so bad she couldve just denied my time off request instead of punishing me with impromptu split shifts. regardless, i will be home in time for raid and will turn my phone off the hour prior. hopefully we'll get some hardmodes down :)
You can bubble out of your
saedo — Wed, 09/02/2009 - 11:38You can bubble out of your own bleeds!
I'll be online and ready to
Sargus — Wed, 09/02/2009 - 11:24I'll be online and ready to go, incase a spot happens to open up.
I actually may be available
Agoney — Wed, 09/02/2009 - 08:04I actually may be available for this if you need fill ins... moving into my new apartment and my schedule will become a lot more regular once that happens.
Here's some random comments
saedo — Wed, 09/02/2009 - 00:48Here's some random comments starting to flow in about the heroic modes...
Northrend Beasts is hard. I mean harder than Jaraxxus and Faction Champions.
There is a steep dps requirement to not hit the enrage timer. One group did it with 2 tanks.
The timer is 2.5 mins per boss.
Jaraxxus was easy.
The portals are now attackable, and must be killed. Else they keep spawning Mistress of Pains. About 200K hp each.in the 10 man, so expect that a bunch higher in 25 man.
Faction Champions do hit harder, immune to taunt, and appear to have equipped their PvP trinkets this time. (they can get out of a CC once every while on their own) Also, they learned to better focus fire.
One group has said Acidmaw
saedo — Wed, 09/02/2009 - 11:23One group has said Acidmaw and Dreadscale has to die (close) together cause the Enrage wiped them. Something to keep in mind.
We kinda went that far once. How was he hitting at enrage while we were wiping? lol
Let's get this up in strats
garreth — Wed, 09/02/2009 - 10:45Let's get this up in strats section. We're getting through this TONIGHT.
They've already been put in
saedo — Wed, 09/02/2009 - 10:50They've already been put in there.
my guess
h4mm32 — Wed, 09/02/2009 - 09:53my guess is close to 800k like the snowbolds
Couple more points. Jaraxxus'
saedo — Wed, 09/02/2009 - 09:39Couple more points.
Jaraxxus' volcanos operate the same way as the portal. Killable now, and continually spawns Infernals until you do.
For Icehowl, you no longer get the speed buff. So, react faster and move!
So based on WorldofRaids,
saedo — Wed, 09/02/2009 - 10:16So based on WorldofRaids, there's only 8 guilds that got past Northrend Beasts (25m). Let's be world 9th!
So found a new tip, on easy
saedo — Wed, 09/02/2009 - 00:21So found a new tip, on easy mode at least, Hand of Protection removes the impale. If it still works on hard mode, maybe able to focus more on tanks if the OTs take zero damage after they're done?