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Comment — Thu, 02/18/2010 - 21:57

Character Info
Name: 
Comment
Server: 
Gorgonnash
Race: 
Human
Class: 
Paladin
Role: 
Tanking
General Questions
Which days are you available for organized guild events? (Raids, RBGs, etc): 
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
Sunday
UI
Upload UI: 
Which addons do you consider essential and why?: 
If they help you, I think you should consider using them. I also have Recount and Omen. Though I'm not fond of Mods playing the game for you. I enjoy X-Perl for bars, and DBM for notifications on bosses. Pally Power is nice for simplification on buffs. I run a few mods for arenas also. Gladius and Interrupt Bar help, mainly Interrupt Bar for when I'm playing Holy. I'm open to lots of options though.
PvE
Raid Experience: 
Well I was trying to run with Fjun's 10-man awhile back. Due to scheduling I wasn't able to hold true to that raid found a better suited time frame which happened to be with Craeg, Poisondonut, Capinbill, and a few other DF members I can't remember off the top of my head. Anyhow, that fell apart after a few weeks, even though much progression was being made, due to work or school for a few people. Since then I've just been doing what I can when I can. I've cleared through Dreamwalker but no farther in ICC10. I app'd to BF, though I'm not their type so it didn't sit well in the trial run raid. In that raid we also cleared through Dreamwalker but after that I was sat for their better geared tank so they could down Sindragosa and further progress, this being in ICC25. I'm really looking more for anything I can get in whether it be 10 or 25 man. I'm happy to go wherever is needed or wanted.
Personal
What timezone are you in?: 
USA/TX
Tell us a little about yourself.: 
I'm in school currently for Audio Engineering, Studio Productions and Live Sound. I'm taking 15 hours this semester. I work at Olive Garden as a server. On the side, I shoot free-lance videography with a few friends of mine doing weddings, live events at venues, or whatever other multi-cam jobs come available. I didn't intend for that to sound like a euphemism for porn, but it isn't just in case you were wondering lol. I've been playing guitar for several years and have recently taken up piano to further my compatibility in the music industry.
Open/Closed: 
Closed
Atar's picture

Ginvited awhile back. 

Atar — Wed, 03/24/2010 - 06:18

Ginvited awhile back.  Closing app.

Grasen's picture

Are you avil to tank for exr

Grasen — Sun, 03/14/2010 - 14:46

Are you avil to tank for exr tonight?

yeah i'm on

Comment — Sun, 03/14/2010 - 19:08

yeah i'm on

Shihli's picture

@Comment

Shihli — Sat, 03/13/2010 - 20:57

No new posts ...

Aidin's picture

Check out this raid:

Aidin — Mon, 02/22/2010 - 11:51

Check out this raid: /raidevent/malt/2010/03/07

I can't make that raid due to

Comment — Mon, 02/22/2010 - 13:40

I can't make that raid due to my work schedule, at least not most of it. I get off at 3 server on Sundays.

Aidin's picture

bummerz :(

Aidin — Mon, 02/22/2010 - 19:41

bummerz :(

Shihli's picture

@Comment

Shihli — Mon, 02/22/2010 - 02:37

Do you want to be in <Downfall>, the guild?  Or are you simply looking to raid?

Shihli's picture

@Comment

Shihli — Mon, 02/22/2010 - 14:27

After some somewhat-heated discussion in-game, he's answered this question - and he does want to be in the guild, and not necessarily a simple cog-in-the-wheel for raids.  Gotta see how the app period pans out for him.

garreth's picture

Hang out for the normal

garreth — Sun, 02/21/2010 - 21:51

Hang out for the normal duration of the app. If we need you and you're on and reliable, then you're what we're looking for. 

I will not invite you back directly simply because you're Mendaren. Sorry. But if you're actually valuable and reliable, well then fuck yeah, let's get you in. 

I appreciate your patience in the process. Kick some ass for us.

garreth's picture

Let's see where he's at after

garreth — Sat, 02/20/2010 - 02:47

Let's see where he's at after the normal amount of time our apps normally have to wait before joining.

About how long is this

Comment — Sun, 03/14/2010 - 13:57

About how long is this process? Haven't heard anything and some people who apped after me have been decided on. Just curious if there are every any trial runs or anything where you actually evaluate, and if so if I'll ever see one. Mainly just updating my threat somewhat... I'm not exactly sure what I'm supposed to do after apping really. I've sat in dfrecruit but there's hardly ever anything going on. Just kind of been waiting for any kind of anything really lol.

Shihli's picture

@Comment

Shihli — Sun, 03/14/2010 - 14:28

The process is entirely based on your participation and activity in-game and on the site.

Oh, good. I was worried I

Comment — Sun, 03/14/2010 - 19:32

Oh, good. I was worried I might have to be competent at my class or something as well as wanting to be a part of the guild, which quite frankly I was a bit nervous about. :P

 

Is there somehow I can be involved so that I can have some kind of idea on how my app is going? I'm not trying to expedite a decision, I'm really just trying to figure out the status of things. It's hard to participate in something in which I am not invited to, such as a raid, or being involved on the site in topics I really don't know much about. As an app I really feel I only have business responding to things in my app, for the most part. And as for in-game, I guess I'll just continue to be available for raids.

Shihli's picture

@Comment

Shihli — Sun, 03/14/2010 - 20:11

Joking aside, I can see your point-of-view.  I'll talk with officers and come to a decision with them at some point this evening.

 

Grasen's picture

he;s been a part of the guild

Grasen — Fri, 02/19/2010 - 23:23

he;s been a part of the guild for as long as i can remember in some form or fasshon. I Like mendarean and always have.    I like haveing people i consider friends in guild as well.     Since I consider him a friend i am personally in favor of him joining.     so my votes in.   

Shihli's picture

As has been mentioned a few

Shihli — Fri, 02/19/2010 - 23:32

As has been mentioned a few times already, him getting into guild has everything to do with the likelihood of him bailing on us again when something else comes along - and nothing to do with his personality or participation in guild raids (e.g. EXR, filling in for KB/Salmon/whatev').

As it stands, he's been in and out of the guild at least four times to date.  Granted, that's four times in as many years, however you look at other guild members that have been playing the game for a similar length of time (myself, Garreth, Nuitarin, Kognus, Closer to name a few) and they've never really waivered.

To mention it again - if Mendaren/Comment were to be reinvited to guild this time, it would be on the basis that he actually wants to join the guild.  In my mind, it's not enough to necessarily want to be in the guild with your friends in it.  It's understandable, sure - however, and this may sound "mean" but you can still have friends in a guild without actually being in it.  If it were up to me, if we were to reinvite Mendaren/Comment, it would be because he doesn't just want to have the same guild name as his friends - it would be because he actually wants to be a part of <Downfall>, and not just until something else comes along - be it a pvp guild with other friends, raiding with another guild with friends, or what have you.

Again - I'm not going to make this decision because that's not my job.  My point-of-view is still the same - I'm ambivolent towards reinviting him, up until he actually makes commentary here regarding his desire to join the guild itself, and not just have a tag under his name that he shares with friends.

Elapsed's picture

So on a less drama like

Elapsed — Fri, 02/19/2010 - 20:09

So on a less drama like subject. Saw you in the short-lived Craeg raid. interesting spec, just wondering why no Divinity? a tank's best friend next to threat is a healer. and that is an extra 5% healed to you from all sources. Now given that our raids have a Vindication like ability (so yours isn't needed) would you respec to put a couple points there? or what would you do?

that being said, would love to see your PVE gear again on the armory to see what you have and what can be improved.

To the rest of the convo here, He stuck by Craig's raid until Craig gave up because too many people bailed on it for other reasons. Weather he's been "flaky" in the past or anything isn't my place to comment (sorry easy pun) as I wasn't around for it. But speaking for Dan (who I know via craeg and everyone) he seems like a decent guy.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talen

Comment — Mon, 02/22/2010 - 01:48

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sVZE0tAbuRusIufdxb

 

This is my 25-Tank build. I'm not sure how I got that other build, but it's not what I use.

With this build, I maximize my threat/damage while supplying and maintaing full defensive and healing attributes that any prot pally should. This is of course assuming that I have a ret or holy/ret pally in the raid with me to provide Heart of the Crusader.

Shihli's picture

If he's truly become far more

Shihli — Fri, 02/19/2010 - 20:50

If he's truly become far more consistant, reliable, and daresay "less likely to up and quit/leave guild for the umpteenth time" then I invite Comment to state as much.

Everyone here (myself included) can vouch for his skill and his, well, likeability.  He's got a lot of friends in Downfall, and no one's denying or trying to defeat that fact.  Problem is, when you've been in guild no fewer than on four separate occasions (once pre-BC, once at the tail end of BC, once while playing Kognus' toon, and once while on Vroomlos pre-name change) and have shown seemingly no interest in actually being IN the guild, it's a hard sell.

My master plan to join

Comment — Sun, 02/21/2010 - 13:18

My master plan to join Downfall and then leave for the 22nd time has been foiled! Uhg. Regardless, I am still looking to raid  so I'll wait for a moment when I might be needed. Just shoot me a tell, I'd love to get an established spot somewhere whether it's now or later. I'm going to be patient and wait. 

Shihli's picture

@Comment

Shihli — Sun, 02/21/2010 - 14:24

This post indicates no actual desire to be in the guild, only to raid.  We've denied other applicants for this very reason.

Derchlon's picture

While I have no personal

Derchlon — Fri, 02/19/2010 - 23:41

While I have no personal attachments in this, I agree with Shihli that I'd like to see Comment address his desire for membership.  Filling out an application is one thing, but I would like to see him at least type a response.

You may or may not be looking

Comment — Fri, 02/19/2010 - 20:14

You may or may not be looking at my pvp prot spec. So... I'd have to post a pve prot spec for you some time

garreth's picture

We're not a revolving door.

garreth — Fri, 02/19/2010 - 14:05

We're not a revolving door.

we are not a...

poisondonut — Fri, 02/19/2010 - 18:41

we're not a revolving door?

Shihli's picture

Yes, PD, contrary to what

Shihli — Fri, 02/19/2010 - 19:29

Yes, PD, contrary to what people may think we don't want to treat being in the guild as an occasional thing.

Kognus's picture

I can understand this view of

Kognus — Fri, 02/19/2010 - 19:28

I can understand this view of the situation because Daniel's various characters have been in and out of guild a number of times. Here's the timeline (as I remember it) though:

1) Mendaren joins <Downfall> back in pre-BC during its early stages after <the forsaken order> gets disbanded. CURRENT G-QUIT COUNT: 0

2) After leveling to 70 in <Downfall> Mendaren takes a break from the game. He comes back to find that he is in <Less QQ More PewPew> because his real life friend Captnopants (who had his account info at the time) moved him there while he was taking his break. <Downfall> basically isn't talking to the people who left guild to join <Less QQ More PewPew>, but Daniel was never actually a part of the exodus. CURRENT G-QUIT COUNT: 0

3) Mendaren joins <Oblivion> with the rest of <Less QQ More PewPew>. CURRENT G-QUIT COUNT: 0

4) Unable to raid because of scheduling conflicts Mendaren decides he is unhappy in <Oblivion> and leaves to play in various small PvP guilds. CURRENT G-QUIT COUNT: 0

5) Mendaren rejoins <Downfall> in late in BC (early-Sunwell progression, if I recall correctly) and raids with the guild for most of the rest of the expansion. CURRENT G-QUIT COUNT: 0

6) In Wrath Daniel switches to my character while I'm taking a break from the game. He plays it for about five months before my return and then a bit here and there after that (though he has not played it for quite some time now as far as I know). Mendaren is g-kicked for inactivity while he is playing my paladin. Daniel doesn't remember the user name and password for the account Menaren is on so he can't get back in. CURRENT G-QUIT COUNT: 0

7) Daniel now owns Darkspeed's account. After a month or so of being unable to raid with Vroomlos (Darkspeed's old paladin, now renamed Comment) due primarily to scheduling issues he leaves the guild to join a PvP guild on his paladin and his other characters are kicked from <Downfall>. As I understand it he did this because the people in that other guild were the ones that he was spending a lot of his time in guild with. This is the FIRST time he has ever actually quit the guild. CURRENT G-QUIT COUNT: 1

So to this point Daniel has actually only quit the guild once on one of his characters and (in my opinion) that was for understandable reasons. That hardly sounds like a person with a desire to turn the guild and its raids into a revolving door.

At the end of the day I know that I don't get a lot of say in matters like this, but these are the facts and if they aren't good enough for you then, well, I guess that's all there is to it.

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And as I explained to Comment

Shihli — Fri, 02/19/2010 - 19:28

And as I explained to Comment earlier as well ...

1)  No need to add details.

2)  He voiced no desire to come back to <Downfall>, or if he did, he didn't make a convincing enough argument to get back in.

3)  Didn't come back to <Downfall>.

4)  Didn't show interest in coming back.

5)  Came back.

6)  Had quit playing and came back on your account.

7)  No need for more details.

So yes, while he might have only gquit once, he certainly showed little desire to be in the guild from the get-go.  Again, I could be completely wrong here, but thus far he has not voiced up any indication that he wants to BE in <Downfall> specifically.  He has not said "I want to be in Downfall again."  He has said he plans to be around so long as he can be busy with "the people he spends time with."

Again, for me personally I am neutral on this matter and Comment's application.  A lot of what gets you into guild in the first place is actually WANTING to be in the guild at all.  Thus far, after much discussion on his application he hasn't spoken up on it.  He may not have gquit, genuinely, more than once - but he certainly hasn't shown that he wants to be in <Downfall> specifically.

Grasen's picture

mend  i am in need of a tank

Grasen — Fri, 02/19/2010 - 13:58

mend  i am in need of a tank this weekend for icc 10.    lemme see your pve tank gear and lets talk.   tanks are super hard to come by right now.    

 

weather he was to quit again or not seems irrivelent to me.     after have to call my 10 man last week and take a huge progression hit due to lack of tank he could fill a void here.     to me thats greater than his history.  

i hope like hell right now you have the gear to tank this mend. (and aiint locked)

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