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Praetahim — Mon, 08/16/2010 - 14:19

Character Info
Name: 
Praetahim
Server: 
Gorgonnash
Race: 
Human
Class: 
Priest
Role: 
Healing
General Questions
Which days are you available for organized guild events? (Raids, RBGs, etc): 
Monday
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UI
Upload UI: 
Which addons do you consider essential and why?: 
add ons? Mods? lol if u wanna know how if feel about add ons and mods take a look at my UI screen shot. Took a lot of time to get that right and it works amazingly.
PvE
Raid Experience: 
my progression is 12/12 exp in icc. i have done RS but can never find a grp that can hang in there to down halion. i also have healed with some of the guys from downfall in uldaur. i have completed naxx and toc, and in bc i have done BT, MH, TK, ZA, and Kara. some on different toons at different times.
Personal
What timezone are you in?: 
USA, Ga
Tell us a little about yourself.: 
33yrs old male. i work privately running my own business. i have 2 little girls, i read a lot and keep up to date with wats going on in WoW and other games.
Open/Closed: 
Closed
shakos's picture

LOL WTF?!

shakos — Mon, 08/30/2010 - 18:39

LOL WTF?!

Maltoheals's picture

Move from old app to this

Maltoheals — Tue, 08/17/2010 - 14:09

Move from old app to this one

 

Ok here is Mouse over Macro Stuff

Ok so I
see your reference "I agree that mouse-over macros probably would be a
better technique than using grid in some cases" and I wanted to make
clear that Mouse over Macro's in no way means you stop using grid in
fact I feel using both together is the perfect marrage........


Here is an example of a mouse over macro:


/cast [target=mouseover] insertspellnamehere


Here is a good article I think that would fill in most of the gaps:


http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/23/a-guide-to-mouseover-macros/

And
here is my two cents on the whole subject..... (boy I am always giving
out my "Two Cents" a lot lately no wonder I am terminally Broke!!!!

No matter how you split it.... Your going to be using Keys in your
healing.... Whether you use - Healbot, Clique & Grid, (there are a
few others).... Still involves Keying in often combined with clicking a
frame. No matter how you look at it it is more difficult then Mousing
over and key spamming..... Not saying you can't come across as
incredible doing it another way but just in terms of pure executed
actions I would still have to say mouse overs are more effective (talk

 

DAMMIT KEYBOARD RAN OUT OF BATTERIES MID SENTENCE

 

I would also like to add that I feel you need to kind of choose Holy
or disc and gear/Gem seperately --- What might be considered BIS for one
spec I can tell is not for the other....

malto

Praetahim — Tue, 08/17/2010 - 17:12

"I would also like to add that I feel you need to kind of choose Holy

or disc and gear/Gem seperately --- What might be considered BIS for one
spec I can tell is not for the other...."

i know that now. thats what i was experimenting with when i had first applied to DF, but was slowing learning u can't completely be Disc n' Holy in the same set of gear. So i started leaning more about Disc and I am sure that i'll stick with it. At least till i get a chance to have a second off set for holy. I never mind full filling the needs of raid healer or Disc Healing.

Thank you again for the good mouse over macro. I'll toy with it a little and see where it takes me. I may or may not stick with mouse over macros but it'll be something i'll have to get the feel of. I did read up on the article you posted about mouse over spells. Some of it seems a little if'ish to me. i Currently have no issues what so ever to using grid/clique, but i do feel if i don't take a chance to learn mouse over i might be over looking something thats way to useful later on.

trade chat.

Praetahim — Mon, 08/16/2010 - 21:58

not sure about the trade chat trolling, i do my fair share of trade chat trolling sure, and i might seem rude sometimes. I am not by nature a mean person. but their are times in trade chat when i see people posting silly, immature post and i follow in suit and play a long with them. As it is trade chat i never get emo and take things personally, to me its all just fun n games, i know i'm no perfect angel and i more than often go out of my way to help others. now u might wanna say i have a mouth in trade chat. sure. but the things i don't do is ninja loot, ninja GKP's, or go out of my way to be a major prick in less i am put on the spot to be one.

Onrique's picture

Trade chat trolling is not

Onrique — Tue, 08/17/2010 - 17:42

Trade chat trolling is not something that we do here.

onrique

Praetahim — Tue, 08/17/2010 - 20:24

That's your best reply? I hate to challenge someone when i'm trying to get into a guild that their in, but i'm going to turn this on you. I want you to challenge me instead. You don't want me to troll fine I want. I want you to get something out of this. I want you and your guildmates to see me try my heart out to get into your guild.  I'm tired of bad raiding guilds and I wanna step my game up. I wanna be taken as a serious raider not a bad trade chat troller. Now i ask you seriously, what do you have to say to this post?

Did you close your old app

Ghli — Mon, 08/16/2010 - 18:09

Did you close your old app and create a new one to hide the bad comments?

bad comments?

Praetahim — Mon, 08/16/2010 - 18:32

not sure wat bad comments u mean. when ever i try to submit a app to a guild i try to be professional but with a little since of humor in the spirit of the game. i mean it is just a game in the end. I would like to apologize if there was something i put in that i didn't notice or consider how it was being directed but i assure everyone out there that no harm was intended.

bad comments, eh?

Praetahim — Mon, 08/16/2010 - 22:03

i never closed my app but never got a reply. as i do have a few friends in DF i do try to be persistent with getting what i want. i never deleted my first app, but than again i didn't even know people were commenting on it either. i just submitted it and thought i'd get a reply in game or via email and that was that. after talking to Celebra she informed me to keep taps on my app and keep reapplying if i really want in. so i guess even if this app gets deleted i'll have to fallow up with a 3rd or even 4th. lol, after all if we all just gave up on what we want would anyone clear any content?

Here's your "old"/"closed"

Ghli — Mon, 08/16/2010 - 19:53

Here's your "old"/"closed" app 
/guild-app/rachelrayy

I see comments about you being a tradechat troll, never responded to Maltoheals's comments about gemming, never responded to Sargus's comment about swapping from a reduced threat enchant to a haste enchant, and another comment about being a tradechat troll.

Any responses to these things?

update on my gear and spec.

Praetahim — Mon, 08/16/2010 - 23:06

As i've stated in other post i wasn't aware anyone was replying to my app. i do apologize for not responding. it wasn't that i didn't care i just wasn't informed about the threads on apps. i have looked over the details about malto's comments on my gear and spec. at the time of my first app i wasn't sure if i was going to be used as more holy or more disc and now it seems that i'm falling in love with being disc. with that said i've also adjusted my gear to be much more based on haste so i have quicker shields, renew, and etc. i also caught the comment about my cape enchant and switched that off to 32 haste. i am more than sure if i wanted or needed to go holy i could with ease, and changing some gems around but till i feel i am needed as a full raid healer i'm more than happy as disc for now. i would like to apologize personally to Malto for no seeing his post and any others that might have commented on my gear, n spec. no matter wat the out come of my DF app i can say i've learned a lot about raid bosses and even a lot properly gemming and enchants towards priest. Thank you again guys and can only hope things can be better between us in the future.

Maltoheals's picture

Your gemming Pure

Maltoheals — Tue, 08/17/2010 - 07:07

Your gemming Pure Spirit and Haste........?

I do not agree with gemming pure haste by any means and gemming pure spirit is a mistake I have made in the past.....

You need to run your toon Thru Rawr to see the effective loss in Thru put as a result of gemming Pure Spirit compared to SP/Spirit...

Also gemming pure haste is big no no..... SP/Haste and this is only if haste is truely beneficial for you but as a Disc Priest I am not sure that this is the case......... I mean let's just pencil out the losses you are occuring here.

+20 haste in 8 Gem slots......... Take a look at a http://www.wowhead.com/item=40155/reckless-ametrine which has +12 Spell Power and +10 Haste Rating ....... So even if it were correct to gem for so much haste as a Disc priest (which I believe is not the case at all) you gain in spell cast speed definately does not out weigh your loss in SP....

Check out how this Disc priest is gemming

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&cn=Resqtoaster

Now I know some priest gem full haste in slots but I simply don't agree with this ....... and for a disc priest I believe gemming SP/Intell is more important

But I will let a true disc priest pipe in here as I will not profess to be a skilled in disc at all

Maltoheals's picture

by the way

Maltoheals — Tue, 08/17/2010 - 10:16

by the way

 

The second half of my post is white lettering why ??? I have no idea how that happen but think of it as written only for priests lol

 

USE TOOLS FOR Optimizing Your TOON..... Rawr,Spreadsheets, etc

 

Here is an old post on using Rawr

http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=21&mid=124443421410708451&how... (just kind of plucked that one out of the air lol - thank god for google or I would have to explain this stuff myself lol --- I will leave those kind of posts to Saedo lol)

Also you will find some tools here -= http://zusterke.orderoftheathanor.eu/

 

This one I find kind of funny http://askmrrobot.com/WowSimulator.aspx lol (I would not use this one but check it out)

 

I am a big fan of Bob Turkey but he has been mostly focused on Cat changes but you can apply and Extrapolate his numbers from earlier posts if you want to do your own math (I have a macro driven spreadsheet but it is a bit outdated and am to lazy to update the modifiers)

 

Oh and I am told this is a good Disc Priest Blog if you can wade thru the BS

http://ducttape.etherjammer.com/

 

 

interesting

Praetahim — Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:40

Interesting you say that about the white lettering being only for priest. I caught it the first time so I cause that's my calling to be a priest right? And if anyone else caught it and they play a different class than priest maybe their a priest by calling to? they just haven't stepped up to the awesomeness of playing the best class in the game. wink wink.

Shihli's picture

Fixed it for you malto.

Shihli — Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:19

Fixed it for you malto.

Maltoheals's picture

Thanks man

Maltoheals — Tue, 08/17/2010 - 11:30

Thanks man

 

I am too damn lazy to fix the HTML lol

Scaron's picture

I agree with Malto on the

Scaron — Tue, 08/17/2010 - 08:02

I agree with Malto on the gemming thing...I also agree that whatever Resqtoaster says you should listen to.

One note on sp/haste over sp/int. To some degree whether you gem for int depends on whether or not you're having mana issues. At a low level on my disc priest I was gemming pure int (as, I believe, int provides the greatest mana regen for a disc priest). More recently I've started gemming sp / int as I have an over 30k mana pool when buffed and I pretty much never had mana trouble (so long as I was properly using mana cooldowns like HoH, shadowfiend, mana pots, etc).

Although being "int capped" isn't commonly talked about, it does seem possible for a disc priest. It's not that your mana pool doesn't keep getting bigger, but if you have 10k mana left at the end of every fight you are effectively not getting much added benefit from the stat, you'd do more throughput if you gemmed spellpower, crit, or haste (and probably some combination of these stats).

I have noticed that there are some times that the reduced GCD from more haste is way helpful for keeping your "bubble finger" moving quickly...but this is probably pretty fight dependent.

I'm not making the argument that you should ignore int gems all together, I'm just saying that there's probably a happy medium (for most stats, sp, haste, crit, int--all of them) and that gemming for a disc priest is quite dependent on your gear level and play style. 

Resqtoaster may correct all of this. But those are my thoughts.

starstalker's picture

This thread needs Shinzwei.

starstalker — Mon, 08/16/2010 - 14:29

This thread needs Shinzwei.

This thread needs some

Shinzwei — Mon, 08/16/2010 - 20:14

This thread needs some E-V-O-O. DELISH AND YUM-O! I'd bang the dust of that P....

EVOO?

Praetahim — Mon, 08/16/2010 - 22:15

Wat is this Evoo u speak of?

Wait you're not the real

Shinzwei — Tue, 08/17/2010 - 07:46

Wait you're not the real Rachel Ray? Get the fuck on that way scrub --->

NO!

Praetahim — Tue, 08/17/2010 - 13:55

By God i can heal and i may not be the real RR but if i have to start out as the guild cook fine by me. But i am not going anywhere. 

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