New mage talent trees
Alprazalam — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 22:18
So if I understand corrently, the patch tomorrow will include the new talent trees. I know I'm respeccing and was wandering what all the other mages in guild were going to do. I'm thinking of doing something like this.
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=oZ0EcbRhIuVubhktMhc
I did wanna put a point in incneration but decided to go with Hot Streak because I wanted to try it and and see if I could find away to effectivly use pyroblast and not have threat problems (like after popping invisibility on a boss fight).
I didn't get Firestarter because I never use Flamestrike, but thinking about getting it when i have more talent points just to try out how Flamestrike will fit in my AOE rotations (see if I can get more damage done without aggro problems).
when I hit 80, I was thinking of doing this.
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=oZcEcbRhIuVubGstmhc0o
Try out the flamestrike and pyroblast and see if I can properly handle the aggro. If I keep over aggroing with the instant flamestrike, then i'll take those points out and put them into Arcane Subtlety and go back to my usual rotation of DB, BW, AE.
I will admit I don't know too much about arcane and frost but would like to see how ya'll will spec with only 61 talent points and then how you will spec once you've hit 80.

With the amount of bugged
Dragon — Tue, 09/23/2008 - 05:39With the amount of bugged talents and half finished trees at the moment (just holy and prot pallies alone if not more aren't finished), its doubtful that the patch is hitting today.
I expect it the tuesday after blizzcon (which would conviently put it about a month before the release).
A good general clue though alp is to check the ptr. Patches tend to be released within a week or 2 of the ptr being taken down.
Weatherman says a Divine Storm's acomin'. . .
I heard Shinzwei makes poops
Shihli — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 23:36I heard Shinzwei makes poops between his ears
"Ive heard" patch will be in
Shinzwei — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 23:32"Ive heard" patch will be in mid October. I think I read that on either MMO-Champion or Worldofraids.
Just saying. Patch is gonna
saedo — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 23:18Just saying. Patch is gonna come out every week if everyone goes by "what I've heard". lol There's always someone saying that, and one of these days, they'll be right. lol
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/atar sigh Saedo, I don't
Alprazalam — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 23:06/atar sigh
Saedo, I don't have a source, and I really don't think it will come out tomorrow either. It really is just "What I've heard." What this thread is really about is what our mages are going to spec at lvl 70 and at lvl 80 when the new talent trees DO come out.
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Cite a source for saying the
saedo — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 22:55Cite a source for saying the patch is tomorrow. Cause it's gonna be like that every week if all you have is "all you've heard". lol
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At one point I was carefully
Dufe — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 22:54At one point I was carefully re-evaulating builds with every new patch. It just got to a point where the changes were coming fast enough that I decided it wasn't worth the time til it settled down, which I don't think is all the way done yet.
Off the top of my head, I
Dufe — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 22:52Off the top of my head, I might do something like this for Arcane:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=ofxVcb0hzxGuMxMbZVhc0o
I still don't have 4pc T6, so AB spam will likely be my top dps for my current gear.
and Kybosh, thats just what
Alprazalam — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 22:45and Kybosh, thats just what I heard. I really don't have proof, but the main thing I was wandering was if it did, how would our mages change their spec.
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BTW Dufe, I'd love to
Alprazalam — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 22:43BTW Dufe, I'd love to seehow your are going to spec if the new talent trees do come out tomorrow =P
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Oh true . . . from what I've
Dufe — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 22:37Oh true . . . from what I've seen, Icy Veins *should* be higher single target dps for most fight lengths than Living Bomb. But again, there are rumors of further adjustments to Living Bomb, so . . . have to wait and see.
I swear I would have done
Alprazalam — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 22:35I swear I would have done that but I have to have 50 talent points in fire to get living bomb, which is 51 talents in fire. at lvl 70, I won't have enough points to get Icy veins =(
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The 3.0 patch is tomorrow?
Kybosh — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 22:35The 3.0 patch is tomorrow?
Oh, and I have yet to see
Dufe — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 22:34Oh, and I have yet to see anything that I would consider "solid" theorycraft on lvl 80 just yet, so I'm a little undecided. One guy shows arcane blast spam being the highest dps . . . until you learn that he's one of these idiots who doesn't think mana should be part of the theorycraft equation and he used stat values that aren't even attainable with any gear that's been seen. . . .
Vonte's magegraf should be solid, but I'd have to take the time to figure out what more realistic stat values will be so I could plug them in.
For the first one, unless
Dufe — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 22:25For the first one, unless you're going to Hyjal, move the three points from world in flames over to frost to pick up Icy Veins - especially with Ice Floes now being a T1 talent.
Second, I personally doubt that we'll see the new talent trees tomorrow. In the current beta build, several of them still don't even work. Most of them haven't been fully dps tested/balanced either. (I could always be proven wrong, this is just my opinion)