Nerf this beta patch:

Judgement of the Wise has been changed to grant you 33% of your base mana instead of 20% of your maximum mana.

So this may have killed the whole using ret tree to regen thing for holy pallies.

But Divine Plea boosted:

Divine Plea changed to : You gain 25% of your total mana over 15 sec (Old - 10 sec), but the amount healed by your spells is reduced by 100%. (Old - 50%)

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thanks for the feed back guys =]

the premade gear is pvp gear.it hi stam and int and s butt load of resil u cna get up to 800 resii and 22k  hp

and has mostly crit on it

Since the downsides to Beacon haven't been mentioned yet I thought I'd point them out here as well as other advantages not yet mentioned.

First, beacon of light only heals for the amount actually healed to the target. Which means that if you are raid healing and some pesky druid or shaman snipes a heal of yours with either a chain heal or a HoT and your heal last for 3 (not likely be I'm exaggerating to make a point) then you will only heal your MT for 3. I.E. beacon does not heal for the amount that was over healed.

That being said, there is one thing that is being overlooked in regardes to BoL and thats 2v2 and really 3v3 arenas (where you are more likely to only run 1 healer). In 2v2 this heal allows you to have a (albeit dispellable) Binding heal ALL the time so your warrior buddy can get healed while you heal yourself. 

In 3v3 this is even more prevalent as split dps is more likely to occur. 

Finally, Blizzard has come out and stated that they aren't really thrilled with the current holy spec only being the "Shockadin" spec in pve so I would expect this to be moved.

Not saying that 37/0/34 ain't good but if nothing else I wouldn't expect it to stay around because it is TOO good for holy. Unfortunately this means it will just be moved farther down the ret tree as ret requires a lot fewer mana burns/viper stings/mana drains too be oom, and becoming oom is quite possible in heated battle. 

Oh and as of at least last night, an absorbed judgement returns 0 mana and does not give replenishment. Just some food for thought.

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I know what you are talking about, I watched the video. But the Holy/JotW spec has some serious flaws for PvE. You miss out on a lot of the almost necessary holy spells.

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What you gain that is beneficial to your raid job:

3/3 Sanctified Seals
- Not bad, an extra 3% crit is prety nice. Unfortunately this can also be picked up with a beacon spec. so i guess its not really unique to this spec.

3/3 Judgments of the Wise
-This is a prety powerful spell that has high mana return. Also has the added benefit of helping out while questing and pvping. However, this limits your mobility range to within 10 yards of the boss. All encounters many not allow that. More later.

Over all you spend an additional 15-18 points to get JotW While only 3-6 of those points actually benefit your raid job (Depending on if your Beacon spec includes Sanctified Seals or not). Do the extra points and missed talents in the holy tree really justify the gain of JotW? To decide we have to look at the big picture so lets look at what you miss:

5/5 Holy Guidance
- Instead of 20% int->spell power you get only 12% because you can only put three points into it if you get JotW. Extrapolated from what you said this equates to approximately 200 healing. That's a decent amount of healing lost.

2/2 Infusion of light
-Missing out on an instant cast Holy Light, That seems to be a big loss. That's basically a druid's swiftmend for paladins that can save a tanks ass if LoH is down.

1/1 Divine Illumination
-An amazing spell that helps immensely with mana issues. 50% spell cost for 15 seconds is noting to turn your nose away at. You can either pop it ever time its off CD or save it for parts of fights where you need to do tons of huge heals.

2/2 Enlightened Judgments
-Extend your judgment range to 30 yards giving you more freedom to move when and where you need to. Missing this severely limits your mobility range (within 10 yards of the boss without this spell). Many bosses may not allow you to stand within that range the whole fight. Also, now judgments will be tied into a holy paladins cycle because ret paladins no longer have the ability to refresh all judgments. Again limited to 10 yards is a big crutch for anything that requires you to move.

5/5 Judgments of the Pure
-Having your judgments add 10% spell haste, yes please! 10% haste is huge! Again nothing to shy away from.

1/1 Beacon of Light
-WHAT MISS THIS... HELL NO!!!! This is arguably the best new spell in the holy paladin's arsenal. This spell is simply fantastic! The tooltip reads: The target becomes a Beacon of Light to all targets within a 40 yard radius. Any heals you cast on those targets will also heal the Beacon for 100% of the amount healed. Only one target can be the Beacon of Light at a time. Lasts 1 min.

The most glorious thing about this is that you can make the MT the beacon. Thus allowing you to raid heal WHILE healing the MT, but wait it gets better. Lets say you crit heal Mr. Emoroguestandsinfire for a 13k heal.... well that means it will heal the tank for just as much... BUT THAT CAN CRIT TO!!! All of a sudden your heal can land on the tank for 20k+

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In the end I don't think that the 8 almost completely wasted talent points needed to get to JotW is worth it. You just simply miss too much from the holy tree to justify going that deep into ret. As I said earlier mana shouldn't be an issue once you factor in that Divine Plea will be fixed, being in a raid will add quite a bit to mana regen, and the utilization of Divine Illumination will help as well -- Why miss all the goodies deep in the holy tree for something that won't be necessary in a raid.

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i dont think that with the new spec in ret tree can be considered soly pvp cause basicly in that tree you dont need to go down to divine ilumination because with that spec the cost of ur spell dont mean a thing.

 Now for raiding u can live without beacon,cause ur still be casting holy light non stop wicth u can keep up a mt on illdain fight by your self  in wrath and never run out of mana ever!!! same thing goes for FoL. beacon works like this ,u cast it on a person and if u heal some one in there group the person u casted it on gets the heals also , so it lets u heal 2 peopel at same time max iv used the spec in a raid environment in wrath and is totaly usefull. if u went twards this way of specing it would be powerfulls heals non stop and u can do them the whole fight it would be like healing before wrath but at a much higher and way stronger way

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