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Jimi — Sat, 04/18/2009 - 19:24

Character Info
Name: 
Biana
Server: 
Gorgonnash
Race: 
Human
Class: 
Rogue
Role: 
DPS
General Questions
Which days are you available for organized guild events? (Raids, RBGs, etc): 
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Mods are needed.
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Raid Experience: 

Nax 10 and Nax 25 full clears.
Ulduar 10 - Flame Leviathan , Ignis the Furnace Master , Razorscale , XT-002 Deconstructor.
Ulduar 25 - Flame Leviathan , Ignis the Furnace Master , Razorscale , XT-002 Deconstructor , Assembly of Iron , Kologarn and Auriaya. Attemped Thorim and Hodir but was unsuccessful.

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Washington
Tell us a little about yourself.: 
I am single and I have a good job. I live alone.
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Huh what? Yes

Jimi — Mon, 04/27/2009 - 18:40

I was using Kel'thuzad's Reach for my MH. I was comparing both the Hand of Nerub and Paper Cutter for my OH. And I tried both Wound poison and Deadly poison on my OH. I noticed my damage was higher while using the Hand of Nerub and Wound poison but that may have been due to other factors and not the weapon. I will use the Paper cutter and deadly poison entirely in the next raid to compare. Plus I noticed looking at the parses that I was missing around 12 to 18 percent. Which seems to a lot. But maybe I'm wrong. Please tell me what you think.

bluetouguyss's picture

I am not sure which of those

bluetouguyss — Mon, 04/27/2009 - 12:30

I am not sure which of those he was using I remember him talking about both of them.   We agreed in raid I thought that he wanted a fast OH though.   I will make sure when I talk to him next to ask him exactly what he was using.  What kind of dps numbers should a rogue with his gear be getting for a whole naxx25 raid?  And on patchwork?

 

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Well can't really say "dps"

saedo — Mon, 04/27/2009 - 12:51

Well can't really say "dps" for an entire run with all the weird shit running around and all.

But Patchwerk he did almost fine.  4723 dps.   Better than what I would've pegged him at, which was 4500ish dps.    Only mistakes appear that he let SnD fall off a bit.   

But maybe that was a fluke.   Looking at it again, looks like he died near the end, but did get all the heroism time.   So that would've skewed his Heroism uptime higher a bit.

As for the rest of the fights, meh, it kinda varies depending on how you do it, how many buffs/debuffs get applied.     But he seems to be 3.7K ish for most of them which seems fine.

 

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4-25 EP1 recap

Torvo — Sat, 04/25/2009 - 17:18

Biana was with us for the full raid (that we completed), here are my partial parses (still was figuring out how to use them): http://wowwebstats.com/ujdfp6zbuajfw. Enjoyed having you with us, let's keep up the regular attendance. I'm looking forward to seeing your incremental improvements in the coming weeks!

Damage

Jimi — Sat, 04/25/2009 - 19:48

I made the changes to my spec and gems as suggested by Pulga and Saedo. My dps dropped by almost 1k. Plus I noticed that using the Hand of Nerub was better than the Paper cutter as my OH. I will keep working on my gear and overall damage.

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Are you speaking in

saedo — Sat, 04/25/2009 - 22:23

Are you speaking in opposites?

Cause you seemed to be up in dps, from 3894dps last Patchwerk to 4723 dps this one.

And how do you figure Hand of Nerub is better? Gut feeling? Or is this still opposite talk?

Anyways, on these parses, look like you messed up SnD more. I see a 2 sec gap, 1 sec gap, and 3 sec gap. And you're still not using Deadly Poison.

Its not my intention to speak

Jimi — Mon, 04/27/2009 - 18:56

Its not my intention to speak in opposites. And no it was not a gut feeling. So maybe I should rephrase my words. As I mentioned to you in another comment. I noticed that my dps was higher while using the Hand of Nerub but that may have been do to other factors and not the weapon.And yes I did notice that my damage was higher against Patchwerk which is good. But we both know that having high damage on one boss and be just OK through out the rest of the raid is not good enough. So keep hammering me with your good advice I am listening and will learn. Sometimes a little slow but still learning. 

saedo's picture

Yea but that one fight is the

saedo — Mon, 04/27/2009 - 23:10

Yea but that one fight is the perfect one for rogues to do their maximum potential.   Everything else just stems from that, you simply start or stop more often.

Well wound might work for you right now.   It is better for burst damage.    So the shorter interrupted fights you might see it better.   Or could be all RNG.

So, prob keep all that in mind if you get into longer fights were you can fully bring out cycles and the rogue potential.

You guys are to kind

Jimi — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 22:40

I'm lovin all the crits I'm getting. Give me more I've got the resillience for it. haha Thanks to everyone. And thanks to my friends for their support. Biana

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Solid guy

Noidling — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 20:10

I've been playing with Jim pretty much since I started on the server. We (Biana, Blue, and I) leveled our toons together, and have done a ton of questing and instance bashing together. Jim is solid, dependable, open to constructive criticism, and always willing to help out. I absolutely recommend him as a great asset for this guild.

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So far so good

Torvo — Mon, 04/20/2009 - 12:47

"It's easy to upgrade bad gear, it's hard to upgrade a bad attitude." Everything I've read in this app doubles up on the impression I got of Biana in the EP1 raid this weekend. Listens, open to suggestions, willing to give new things a try, overall positive attitude. I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do with the recommendations you've been passed here, as well as whether or not you're serious about raiding with us. Keep signing up for the EP1 stuff. If you can get your DPS up to 3500+ consistently (which doesn't seem too much of a stretch), I'm looking to get an Ulduar10 going in the next couple of weeks with Naxx25!!1 core raiders (leading up to our eventual transition to Ulduar25!!1). I'd love to have you on board for that.

Cool

Jimi — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 22:36

Thanks Torvo,
I will do my best not to let you down. Saedo is right I need to shoot for 4k minimum overall. I can get 4k on boss fights but still need to work on doing better on trash. Biana

saedo's picture

3500 blows. lol Aim

saedo — Mon, 04/20/2009 - 13:06

3500 blows. lol Aim for 4200-4500 at least with the gear he has.

Torvo's picture

I said 3500+ ;-)

Torvo — Mon, 04/20/2009 - 16:12

4200-4500 is above that! lol

saedo's picture

But you're asking for minimum

saedo — Mon, 04/20/2009 - 16:30

But you're asking for minimum effort while I'm asking for maximum effort! ;p

Torvo's picture

People don't like me as much as you

Torvo — Mon, 04/20/2009 - 17:24

I have to take what I can get. LOL

garreth's picture

Digging the app so far. The

garreth — Sun, 04/19/2009 - 22:46

Digging the app so far. The last rogue we offered supportive criticism to turned his app into a massive flame war. Not saying we're gods of WoW (what a seriously lame title), but we're willing to guide players to squeak out all the dps they can get. Our first XT-002 kill was after enrage and it was literally that 1% difference that allowed us to down him. Knowing that I'm raiding with dps that put their all into hitting that extra 1% is the difference between progression and wiping.

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The last app was Isilra.

Shihli — Sun, 04/19/2009 - 23:02

The last app was Isilra. Dude couldn't handle the heat.

saedo's picture

Well Tongpo's app was after,

saedo — Sun, 04/19/2009 - 23:20

Well Tongpo's app was after, but I believe it blew up for different reasons. lol

bluetouguyss's picture

oh tongpo....I know him

bluetouguyss — Mon, 04/20/2009 - 18:02

oh tongpo....I know him IRL!!!

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Oh wow, I never realized that

pulga — Sun, 04/19/2009 - 07:57

Oh wow, I never realized that Saedo was the last rogue recruited, and that was a year ago. Crazy.

I thought I was the last

Felsteel — Mon, 04/20/2009 - 08:22

I thought I was the last rogue to join the DF ranks. lol

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I think we are talking

pulga — Mon, 04/20/2009 - 08:37

I think we are talking recruited. So that would place Reusch, then Saedo. I came in way back when Aidin and Grasen came over from Straight Twisted, so I wasn't really recruited either.

saedo's picture

Scratch that, I just

saedo — Sun, 04/19/2009 - 11:30

Scratch that, I just remembered Ruesch (Threerick)! Where ever he may be. lol

saedo's picture

Ha yea. Actually I think

saedo — Sun, 04/19/2009 - 10:36

Ha yea. Actually I think it's 17 months now. lol

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Jimi, you'll notice that we

garreth — Sun, 04/19/2009 - 00:35

Jimi, you'll notice that we go REALLY hard on the pure dps classes when they app. That's because pure dps classes are a dime a dozen. If we're going to ginvite a pure dps class (that can't tank or heal for us) then they've got to be impressive. Theorycraft expertise, progressive gemming/enchanting and expert cooldown usage are all signs of the type of player we'd want to bring in. We haven't ginvited a rogue since... Pulga? Yikes.

So you see the hill you have to climb here. That's not saying it's impossible because a great deal of your chances lie in the type of PERSON you are, outside of just spec, gear and class. Show us that you're willing to take some criticism and apply some best practices (ie listen to Saedo and Pulga). Get those mods that help you be 0.5% more efficient. Craft that piece of gear that gives you 10 more dps. THAT is the kind of pure dps class I can support. Looking forward to hearing more from you.

I agree about being a pure

Jimi — Sun, 04/19/2009 - 12:55

I agree about being a pure dps class. Everyone has one and no one wants another. Unless they are impressive.
I have been reading up on rogues at Elitistjerks and Shadowpanther. And I've used the spreadsheet to help improve my dps output. And positive criticism is always welcome. Hmmm over a year since the last rogue ginvite. Maybe I'm the lucky one. Thanks

saedo's picture

*cough* I was here after

saedo — Sun, 04/19/2009 - 00:39

*cough* I was here after Pulga. Huh, now that you mention it, there really has been zero rogues years now.

saedo's picture

Damage debuff has nothing to

saedo — Sat, 04/18/2009 - 23:09

Damage debuff has nothing to do with bleeds.

Spec and Glyph is wrong as Pulga pointed out.

Your gemming is also wrong.

Your offhand is also very terrible.

Damage debuff

Jimi — Sun, 04/19/2009 - 12:40

My mistake it is poison not bleed that needs to be applied to get the damage increase. What do you suggest I do for gemming? I felt I needed to increase my Hit Rating and my Expertise to improve my hit chances and thus do more damage. If you know something better please let me know. And yes my offhand is terrible but its the best I have atm. Spec and Glygh will get changed.

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