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Dangly — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 14:33

Character Info
Name: 
Dangly
Server: 
Gorgonnash
Race: 
Dwarf
Class: 
Paladin
Role: 
Healing
General Questions
Which days are you available for organized guild events? (Raids, RBGs, etc): 
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
Friday
Saturday
Sunday
UI
Upload UI: 
Which addons do you consider essential and why?: 
Hey Garreth, are you making good use of Grid and Clique yet?
PvE
Raid Experience: 
I've downed every boss in WOTLK on normal and heroic, except for EoE 25 man.
Personal
What timezone are you in?: 
USA
Tell us a little about yourself.: 
I'm a software engineer. I play guitar. I'm married. blah blah blah
Open/Closed: 
Closed
garreth's picture

Ginvited.  WB :)

garreth — Tue, 05/26/2009 - 11:42

Ginvited.  WB :)

garreth's picture

Hope to see you

garreth — Wed, 05/20/2009 - 00:12

Hope to see you here: /node/6321

Dangly's picture

Planning on it.

Dangly — Fri, 05/22/2009 - 09:37

Planning on it.

Dangly's picture

I finally uploaded my UI...As

Dangly — Mon, 05/18/2009 - 21:26

I finally uploaded my UI...As you can see, I'm a little influenced by Garreth.

jaibyrd's picture

I like Dangly.

jaibyrd — Tue, 05/19/2009 - 19:16

I like Dangly.

Dangly's picture

The feeling is mutual

Dangly — Thu, 05/21/2009 - 08:14

The feeling is mutual jaibyrd.  Glad to know ya!

Dangly's picture

Thanks for getting me some

Dangly — Mon, 05/18/2009 - 09:32

Thanks for getting me some play time yesterday afternoon.  That was alot of fun.  It's always a pleasure to raid with you guys.

Enixa's picture

It's time.

Enixa — Mon, 05/18/2009 - 15:36

I feel it's due time to reply to this app. I was around for the SSC debacle. (Turth) I know what happened, I know the grudges that some couldn't let go. I know the hurt and emotion you left in your wake. You came to Nos yesterday, and did everything you needed todo. Your heals were exceptional and you were attentive. I only have 1 question.

 

For those of us who were around for your previous stint in Downfall. What can you tell us, from th hart, that may possibly counter that event. In my mind, it was an Xpac ago. But I'm still skeptical. Bringing you back is putting a lot of reputations on the line. Imho, you have my vote. But I would appreciate an answer.

 

 

Deuces

Dangly's picture

Here it is...

Dangly — Tue, 05/19/2009 - 10:36

Here's your answer.

/node/6318

 

Dangly's picture

If that doesn't answer your

Dangly — Tue, 05/19/2009 - 16:08

If that doesn't answer your question, make sure you read all of the posts on this page.

And if you still aren't satisfied, then I'll try to help you out, but you will need to be more specific.  Thanks for the post.

garreth's picture

How did your run with Salmon

garreth — Thu, 05/14/2009 - 09:47

How did your run with Salmon go last night?  Can we get some feedback on things he did right and what he can improve on?  Also, get a pic of your UI in your app, nub :P

Prime8's picture

I couldn't really get an

Prime8 — Thu, 05/14/2009 - 10:26

I couldn't really get an impression of his attitude/personality. He didn't say much in raid chat, and didn't talk at all on vent. His heals were ok, but didn't stand out. He spent a lot of the run as DPS, but I generally don't look at that.

Looking at the parses for Razorscale's death (I think one of the only fights he was actuallly heals for), he did pretty well. Still, Dangly, some of us have no idea what happened before, so our only impression of you is what we've read in this app. You might be better served being more personable, although I understand its hard (and generally inappropriate) to do that in the middle of a raid.

Dangly's picture

I wasn't aware that you guys

Dangly — Thu, 05/14/2009 - 11:27

I wasn't aware that you guys wanted puggers to talk in vent.  I'll be glad to talk on vent next time if you so desire.  As for my attitude/personality, I thought I was very flexible and willing to do whatever job needed to be done (switching from healing to dps and then back to healing).

As for the raid parses, here's what I see and you can take it for what it's worth.

XT Death: I was dpsing, but I died early on due to his aoe crap, so the parses don't show me doing much on that fight.

Kologarn Death: I was dpsing, and I came in 6th overall with 3.7k dps. It should also be noted that my JoL accounted for 10% of the effective heals.

Razorscale Death: I was healing (this was the only time I healed), and I came in 3rd with 18% of the total effective heals.

Trash Mobs: I kept a steady 6th place on the damage meters.

My heals didn't stand out because I only healed for one boss fight.  That's why I felt like it was necessary to point out my specific duties for each fight up above.  The only thing I'm trying to say is that I was working hard to pull my weight the whole time and I did what was asked of me.  :) 

Dangly's picture

My UI looks similar to your's

Dangly — Thu, 05/14/2009 - 10:15

My UI looks similar to your's Garreth, but I'll post a pic of it as soon as I get done with work and softball.  I won't be there for the salmon run tonight due to a softball tourny that I'm playing in. 

Thanks for letting me run with you guys last night.  I like being able to practice my versatility (dps'ing and healing).

garreth's picture

Re-opening this since he's

garreth — Wed, 05/13/2009 - 11:56

Re-opening this since he's been running with Torvo and has been a decent healer for that raid.  It's all about consistency and I'd like to see how you do with that raid.

This is not me saying "Yay Dangly!" or "Boo Dangly!", but rather a statement of letting performance and consistency in a Downfall raid speak for themselves. 

Dangly's picture

Thanks

Dangly — Wed, 05/13/2009 - 12:10

Thanks for the good word.  However, Saturdays are not always the best day for me to raid.  So, I'm just going to start signing up for the raids that I can make.  I enjoyed running with Torvo and I'll try to make it into his raid again soon. :)

Dangly's picture

Bump

Dangly — Wed, 05/13/2009 - 11:50

Bumpity bum bump.  I'm still here ya know.  Thought my app was being re-opened, but who knows.  I'm gonna sport the closed section like a new pair of argyle socks anyway!

starstalker's picture

I forget, is this the

starstalker — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 17:40

I forget, is this the ex-guildie who was caught selling bank items on the AH, then sharded his gear?

Maybe I get my quitters mixed up.

Shihli's picture

One in the same, Star.

Shihli — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 17:44

One in the same, Star.

Dangly's picture

I may be a lot of things to

Dangly — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 19:43

I may be a lot of things to you Shihli, but I am no thief. The shards that I sold on the AH were solely from the disenchants off of my gear. I do, however, remember requesting some shards for enchants a week or two prior to my blow up. I just want to set the record straight that I used those shards that I requested for my gear (before my emo session)....Looks can sometimes be deceiving. I am not a thief.

Grasen's picture

I have had the oppertunity to

Grasen — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 17:08

I have had the oppertunity to talk with dangly a couple times in the past year, and after reading the well thought out responses to shihli it seems to me he has learned from the error of his ways,

Personally, I would like to see him git another shot at things, I have no doubt he wont make the same mistakes twice.

Dangly's picture

If you guys are confused, let

Dangly — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 14:59

If you guys are confused, let me be very clear.  I am very serious about my re-app.  This isn't just me having fun with you guys.  However, if you decide to have a little fun in spite of me, well that's ok too.  I can take the heat.

Shihli's picture

I vote a massive, extremely

Shihli — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 15:13

I vote a massive, extremely vocal NO. You blew your chance, and you blew it royally, why should we even bother?

Dangly's picture

I appreciate you actually

Dangly — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 15:48

I appreciate you actually taking the time to reply. However, I can't imagine how someone could harness so much anger against one person they have never even met in real life. I'm a person just like you. My name is Ben, and although we may not have much in common, we both love to play this game. What "chance" did I have to blow? I was just playing a game with friends. It wasn't my job on the line. In my eyes, I won, because I made a decision to focus my attention on my wife, who was going through a terrible depression/anxiety time in her life. Sure, I got angry and wore my emotions on my sleeve, but who wouldn't? I had to quit doing what I loved to help the person that I love. So go ahead and vote No if you want, but I didn't blow my chance. I helped my wife. It's up to you whether or not you should bother. That's not a question you should be asking me. You know my story by now. I don't hold any contempt for you anymore, bro. Maybe I did at one time, but I've learned a great deal since then, and I'm a better man. So whether or not your "massive NO" stands forever, I wish you the best of luck in game and real life.

Shihli's picture

You mistake my insistence on

Shihli — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 15:59

You mistake my insistence on saying no to your application as anger, whereas all it is, is an observation of your behavior. Stuff went south for you and your wife, and I can appreciate that. Lashing out and acting like a douchebag to the guild and to the raid officers is uncalled-for.

Furthermore, while this might not be a job to you, for the people that have to keep 180+ people involved and having fun, while simultaneously dealing with the emo-dramatics that they opt to exercise, while keeping 2 25-man raids afloat and countless 10man raids going, as well as dealing with loot drama, and everything else in-between - it is VERY much a job. Just a job that doesn't pay, has long hours and zero rewards apart from being able to play this game with friends.

To make our job easier, we choose not to invite (or in some cases reinvite) people who are known to be dramatic trouble-causers, or people that have done so in the past. *you* have done so in the past, therefore I am saying that I would not like to see you in guild again.

But ultimately that choice is Garreth's, so let's see how well your reasoning holds up to him.

Aidin's picture

I can see both sides of the

Aidin — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 19:36

I can see both sides of the coin here.

Being a raid leader, a guild officer, or guild master does come with quite a bit of stress much related to a job. And when you work as hard as we do (some more then others), to be disrespected the way Shihli feels disrespected, is a huge slap in the face.

However, it is a game, and we are all human. I can totally see myself snapping one day and deleting all of my gear....and probably Grasen's too (christ...he'd kill me). But I can honestly say as a human being I do know that life can get that bad for one to act as irrational as lol@dangly did. But Shihli, come on...for you to say "You mistake my insistence on saying no to your application as anger, whereas all it is, is an observation of your behavior. Stuff went south for you and your wife, and I can appreciate that. Lashing out and acting like a douchebag to the guild and to the raid officers is uncalled-for." is sort of the pot calling the kettle black isn't it? I'm not trying to pick a fight, I'm simply trying to make my point (which we will get to shortly...I hope)

I have no doubt that lol@dangly's intentions are pure. I spoke with him over 6 months ago (probably longer) and he told me then that he wouldn't rest till he made amends and had such hope that we could find forgiveness for his childish behavior. Here he is 8 months later, KNOWING he is one of the stellar list of GUILD JOKES (I'd not only say top 10, I'd say top 5) ready to be our whipping post for just a glimmer of a chance to get back what he once had.

I have nothing but respect for your courage lol@dangly....and I for one would like to see you given a second chance.

Dangly's picture

In Shihli's defense...wow, did I just say that?

Dangly — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 20:12

I agree with what you said Aidin, but I do have to make one remark in Shihli's defense. I said some really hateful things to Shihli back in the day. I think it was mostly because one remark lead to another remark and we both kept biting at each other a little harder. Shihli is no one to back down you know. I don't know if Shihli just had it out for me from day one ( I doubt that ), or what. But, for some reason, we collided and it just got worse and worse. Most people love me and think I'm fun to hang out with. I believe Shihli probably thinks I'm a douchebag drama queen. I just want you to know, Shihli, that's not who I am, and it's definitely not how I want to be remembered. It's in the past, and that's where it stays.

Aidin's picture

Oh I'm not bashing Shihli, I

Aidin — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 21:20

Oh I'm not bashing Shihli, I love me some Shihli (but I love me some Dragon too, can't say much for my taste huh? jk jk) Even with all of the respect and admiration I have for him, we've still had plenty of toe to toes. I have no doubt that one word led to another bad word in your conversation. Shihli can tell you he and I have had our fair share of not so nice exchanges...but in the end it's all water under the bridge, and he's still my guild mate, and ...my friend.

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Dangly....

Dikymo — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 21:41

Ok I have passed on many many many awful nub apps since I am not currently active in the game. This one requires my special brand of attention.

 

 Dear Dangly, I would like to thank you for all the fun our guild has had at your expense. Your name is forever destined to be a part of downfall lore. The fact that you have reapplied to the guild is a testament to your raw unabashed stupidity. Based on your prior Downfall experience, you could not possibly expect this application to be seriously considered.

 If nothing else, I would like you to leave with the knowledge that you have touched many lives. Perhaps not in a way that anyone would ever want, but deeply never the less.

 

May that bring you some solace and may god have mercy on your soul.

 

Dikymo

Dangly's picture

I already owned up to the

Dangly — Tue, 04/21/2009 - 16:18

I already owned up to the fact that I made some mistakes in my guild app. I'm not a fool, and I don't presume you to be one either. I was very volatile during that time, and I apologize. It was completely uncalled for and unbecoming, but neither was some of the things that you and others said to me. I have held good guild standing with Shawn's guilds (Eldron) since then, and am beloved by many people that think of me as a good guy. I'm human, and error is part of life. Your choice is yours and I respect that. I don't intend to go back and forth wasting you and your guild's time on this app. All I wanted was another look. I appreciate you at least giving me that. Hit me up in-game sometime and lets try to be civilized. I'm trying to make amends. Also, if you are wondering..."Why is he applying now?" Truth be told, Shawn quit leading and now has joined up with <gamers morons="" against="">. You guys are always (and always will be) on the top of my list, so I wanted to give it a shot before I try something else. If you strip away all of the ugly past, I'm a good player and I do what I'm told.

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