Long and short (cause I don't remember it all.)

It is few and far between that I actually give my 'vote' on an application.  However, as a dedicated Tankadin, theorycrafter, and member of this community, I will be giving my vote.

Kit,

• When you apply to a corporation, you do NOT get an interview with the CEO.  If I wanted a job working with computers, I wouldn't be going to look up Steve Jobs or Bill Gates to 'tell' them why I am better than anyone else who has the job.
• There is also usually a "Job Knowledge and Skill Evaluation" in most positions.  As a journalist, you bring proof of writing, a web developer brings his webpages, an analyst brings his spreadsheets.
  • You failed the evaluations presented by myself, Ghli, and Epat.
  • You insulted heavily a number of people that are to be your 'peers'.
  • You proved beyond a shadow of a doubt not only your lack of knowledge about your spec/class's contribution to the raid, but furthermore your 'expectation' that you are unable to be questioned about how your fit into our raid synergy.
• When you "apply for a job at a company" you are applying to work for and with those that have a use for you.  If you walk in and 'snub your nose' at your potential co-workers, what do you think their decision concerning your employment will be?  As a LONG term manager, supervisor, department head, and interim director there were a NUMBER of times that I had to hire MY NEW BOSS.  Do you think I hired the A-hole that talked about his 'potential employees' as being unable to comment on his performance?  No.
• Your job as a tank is NOT to "hold threat".  Your job as a tank is to hold aggro, mitigation, damage prevention, avoidance, taunting, and DEALING DAMAGE.  Yes.  Dealing damage.  DPS = TPS.   (Conversion being roughly 1 damage = 1.9 threat off the top of my head.)
• Blessing of Kings vs Blessing of Sanctuary?  You don't know crap about your class.  Sorry.  That's 3% STRAIGHT damage reduction.  ALL damage, not just melee (as armor doesn't affect spell).  That means the healers are WASTING their time on you.
  • You weren't the cause of 'most' raid wipes?  Maybe.   DIRECTLY you probably weren't, but because your healers were having to work triple time to keep you healed because you were missing 3.5% avoidance from Expertise, 3% direct mitigation from BoS, and MORE than they couldn't keep the dps alive, or the dps had to focus on keeping themselves alive and were using healing potions instead of speed/damage potions.

Therefore, sadly, you have proven your inability to be a part of this community due to not only your inability to function in our community, but that your raid-abilites don't even BEGIN to make up for your massive failure as a raider.  (From Ghli:  Good Gear != Good Player)

Downfall is a community FIRST and raiding guild SECOND.  That means that ANY on of our tanks can comment on YOUR gear and YOUR performance. ANYONE who raids with us can expect it.  I've commented negatively on Garreth, Shihli and a number of others.  Why?  Because we are a community bent on being the best we can be.  We take ALL advice that is given, then we check to see if it's valid.  If it isn't, it isn't.  If it is, WE CHANGE.

Don't believe me?  I went and looked up how/why you did what you did and tanked the way to tanked to see if I should change the way I tank.  I honestly did, but (as my previous theorycrafting indicated) you were wrong.

A few things to keep in mind for your future applications to guilds:

• You are not above ANYONE.  Ever.  You are not responsible to the GM, you are responsible to the community.
• When people give you advice, take it.  Even if you don't agree, take the advice and THANK them for spending their time to work with you.
• If you don't agree, proof yourself.  Data, statistics.  We don't REQUIRE all of our players to be full 100% "elitist jeks", but a crapton of us ARE.  If someone GIVES you full verifiable statistics and data, either get your own to support your view, or take the information you are being given from some of the top players on our server at face value for what it is.
• Your class/spec is a 100% replaceable cog in the machine that is Gorggy.  You CAN be replaced.  So your attitude and personality will define your place in guilds.
• You ARE "puddy to be molded" to the guilds needs.  Any given guild doesn't need you.  YOU need them. You should be willing to change your playstyle at the drop of a hat to 'fit' into what is expected of you.  Does that mean unquestioning?  No.  But when you question, and the answers are given perfectly with full data, logic, and statistics, the arguement "well tanks normally" and "I'm geared enough I don't have to listen to you" make you like like a complete and utter douchebag.
• Grow up.

If you are unable to do any of these things?

Go away.  Go play Darkfall.  There you can be solo, a complete sob, nothing about your class, and still have fun.

In conclusion, sadly, my 'vote' is 'No' on this tankadin.  I say sadly because I normally spend HOURS with each of or tanking paladin applications because I <3 tanking and I <3 tanking paladins.  It is my favorite part of wow.  However, you have proven yourself unable to be worked with.  Have a good day.

And you give me lip back.  And I just checked be imba, and guess what, my gear score is also better then yours.  Just throwing that out there.  So I don't know where you're getting your ranks from, but they're wrong.  And you should have the valor ring, because there's expertise on it, and more defense on it, so you could work it in for some encounters I bet.  So again, I give another thumbs down.  And I'll throw an additional thumbs down in this time.

Believe me, i've researched my class. I know my mitigation and such very well. go view elitist jerks sometimes, they're more detailed than maintankadin.

Dps is not important for a tank in the sense of damage. Yes, a boss will die sooner and the fight may be easier for healers, but in any half decent raid tanks will be 19th and 20th in dps. We don't even do 2% of the damage to the boss usually, so 5 or 6 seconds of a fight won't change anything. Hit and expertise for the sake of damage are the same. These three stats are only for the sake of threat. Between hit and expertise, hit is MUCH more useful as it affects all of your attacks while expertise only affects HoW and white attacks.

I said I"m not going to gem expertise, not that I'm not doing. I have 25 expertise rating now, which is 5.75%. Before you even try and tell me to work on your threory, come to an agreement with the other tanks because the 3 of you are saying completely opposite things.

The reason I don't use that glyph is because Prot pallies never use SoV. A prot pally should either be using seal of healing for survivability or seal of mana so that mana issues don't arise. As I've said before, the only time I have mana issues is in 10 mans, and I used SA to fix that because I didn't see any other worthwhile skills. Running with a decent guild is entirely different from pugs/ weak guild runs. Everything you tanks have said is based on threat generation and trying to improve it. Not a single post has had to do with survivability. I didnt' see the value in such things before because I always held aggro by at least twice as much threat as any other player, but I have already changed to what is suggested since I will be dealing with better dps than I have ever seen and healers.

Only Pudolski and nobooru have any right to say something like that about my gear, as they are the only tanks better geared than me in Downfall and not by all that much. As for raid utility, I have never had an issue with lack of survivability or the ability to tank. I may have mistakes every now and then on the fights i'm not too familiar with, but as long as I know a fight I am rarely the reason behind a wipe. I know how to play my roll perfectly well, if you seem to think I am so clueless then please do some more research and visit elitist jerks as well.

Er, no I didn't? I"m not going to respec unless it's shown to be better. "it depends" is there for a reason.  I am willing to improve my character IF I see it as an improvement. I'm not going to be puddy to be shaped by the guild by every single member's opinion. My build hasn't had any problems up until now, so I'm not going to recklessly toy with it because a guildie said so.