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A note about Shihli, Luchs, main toons, and raiding

Shihli — Thu, 03/06/2008 - 11:12

So last night, during some post-raid discussion, there were a few points that came to light that I want to address.

First off, hi - my name is Shihli. I am a * hunter *. Shihli is my main, and will continue to be my main for the forseeable (and unforseeable) future. I started playing this game in the fall of '04 (I think, might've been '05) during Thanksgiving break.

I have been trying to finish up MH/BT attunement on my ALT, Luchs, over the past month or so. He has the Vashj vial and, fortune permitting, will have an Al'ar kill tonite. Once Atar's raid has Kael down (or if we do more LF1Ham runs), I will be able to get his Kael vial.

Now, let me make this perfectly clear:

I am not now, nor will I ever, make my Shaman my MAIN toon. My MAIN toon is Shihli. The *ONLY* reason that I am pushing to attune my ALT, Luchs, is because we have had frequent healer shortages over the past few months, and I wish to have him available to help the raid in the event that should occur again.

It is NO DIFFERENT than the reason we attuned Pudolski (to help tank when we are down tanks, and to help tank tough trash packs like most of MH and Shahraz trash) or Disrupta (to help tank if one of our ferals had to miss a night). Hell, the only reason I MISSED our prior attunement runs back in December was because I was down in California, as well as figuring out if I was quitting the game or not.

I HAVE NO PLANS to switch toons. NONE. ZERO. NADA. I *ONLY* want to attune Luchs out of the interests of the raid and guild as a whole. Once Luchs gets his Al'ar and Kael'thas kills out of the way (as well as one Rage Winterchill kill), he will NOT be in a 25man raid AT ALL unless EXPLICITLY REQUESTED by Garreth, or by Atar on weekends when I am available to fill in spots for his raid.

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Hamfist - BT

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Go go team!

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What to Alt...

saedo — Fri, 02/29/2008 - 20:06

So, I've been thinking about what next main, I mean ALT, to make. Tongue out

Got me a 70 mage, but that's mostly become my pot dealer. Pretty much done the KZ farming thing. Got most of what I need out of badge rewards (this patch at least), with a potential few others there for minor upgrades so not much motivation to continue diligantly. Don't really like pvp on it cause his gear sucks! lol Maybe next patch when there's the blue pvp gear on rep vendors will make it tolerable.

So this leaves not much left to do on either cept a daily grind, but that gets boring, and on to the pressing question. What should be the next alt?

I do happen to have a 60 dwarf hunter... But literally haven't touched it in over a year, not sure if I can remember how to play one. lol Not much pve experience there either, never got into the shot rotations and theorycrafting bits of it back then. And it's kinda another ranged dps class of sorts. But I do like the name I gave it and it's tempting to just level it just for the novelty of running around with it. lol

Or I could start from scratch. Experience the whole easier leveling in patch 2.3 thing.

Tempted to start a pally I guess. Prot pallies seem OP! lol And should I be healing this seems like something more appealing to me, efficient big heals!

Other stuff I can try...

Warlock? Well I've actually twice tried to level one, but just didn't get past level 25. lol

Warrior? Well I have levelled a horde one to 64. But guess kinda got bored with his crappy gear and inability to access alt twinking moneys. lol

What's left, priest, shaman and druid? Hmm, guess they're possible too.

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Positive Reinforcement vs Negative Punishment

garreth — Thu, 02/28/2008 - 10:59

I'll keep this short and sweet since I dont' have a lot of time, but I really want to get people's feedback on this. 

Last night I was informed of the tactics used by another guild on Gorgonnash regarding Vashj.  It wasn't a boss strat per se, but it was definitely raid related: Every time they'd wipe to Vashj, the raid leader would dock their raiders DKP.  But not everyone.  Only the healers.  Ok, I'll let that sink in a bit.

One more time for good measure: If they wipe on Vashj, they dock dkp from only the healers.  Oh, and they only bring six healers on this fight. We can all agree this is absolutely absurd.  But people are sticking around and actually putting up with it.

This leads to some really interesting discussions of positive reinforcment vs negative punishment.  That guild wants to succeed on a diffcult boss.  They have 2 options

1) Reward improvements and acknowledge what people did right (positive reinforcement).
2) Punish and take away positive stimulus (dkp) for failure to improve. (negative punishment)

Choosing the second option in a game is almost Hitleresque when applied to the raid as a whole.  But to dole it out upon a small and absolutely essential contingent of your team for no other reason than you don't play that role (the raid leaders/officers are all tanks/dps), is downright sick.

And those that sticking around are effectively the raid whipping boys.  How do people put up with this?  Does a group of people need a scapegoat to their own problems so bad that they'll completely oppressed a subsection of their fellow raiders?  Didn't the Nazis do something like this?

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GPS - Zul'Aman

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Let's rock some socks in GPS this week!!!

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Hamfist - BT

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I did not see this made yet so I went ahead and started it up! Laughing

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GPS - Zul'Aman

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GPS-ers:

We will need a main tank tonight (Kybosh is out). Regulars and others encouraged to sign up!  See you then.

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Farming for SR Gear Mats

I will be farming bog lords in SW Zangarmarsh for [Primal Life] and then probably pop up to Manaforge Ultris in Netherstorm to farm [Primal Shadow] off of the voids there.

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Turth IRL

Enixa — Tue, 02/19/2008 - 20:07

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For those downies that fail at mathz

Vulk — Sat, 02/16/2008 - 01:09

For those downies that fail at mathz
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