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Andelan of Gorgonnash Downfall Guild Application

Andelan — Thu, 06/25/2009 - 10:06

Character Info
Name: 
Andelan
Server: 
Gorgonnash
Race: 
Human
Class: 
Paladin
Role: 
Healing
General Questions
Which days are you available for organized guild events? (Raids, RBGs, etc): 
Friday
Saturday
Sunday
UI
Upload UI: 
Which addons do you consider essential and why?: 

Im using Grid now!
Addons are a must have in raids.

PvE
Raid Experience: 

I started raiding in WotLK
Ive done Naxx 10 and 25, full clear,
Ive done VoA 10 and 25,
Ive done OS 10 and 25, 1 drake up
Ive done a few bosses in Ulduar,
and Ive tried to do EoE 10 man, we generally get to P3 and wipe, those dragons are a little funky to heal with, EDIT: Not anymore with mah Fancy grid =D

Personal
What timezone are you in?: 
Washington State
Tell us a little about yourself.: 
Im social, loyal to my guilds as I already stated. And, I sometimes talk too much, I know when I can be goofy but I also know when I need to really focus,
Open/Closed: 
Closed
Shihli's picture

Re: Andelan - app closed

Shihli — Sun, 01/03/2010 - 04:15

No activity in four months, app denied.

BACK BABY

Andelan — Sun, 09/06/2009 - 15:51

Had to wipe my entire hardrive as well as upgrade my comp

IM BACK AND HEALING ASS THAT GOT KICKED BY SOME RAID BOSS!

garreth's picture

Another fart in the wind?

garreth — Tue, 07/07/2009 - 09:59

Another fart in the wind?

Dragon's picture

Might still be having router

Dragon — Wed, 07/08/2009 - 06:12

Might still be having router issues?

saedo's picture

He seemed so eager to learn

saedo — Tue, 07/07/2009 - 10:06

He seemed so eager to learn last week too.

garreth's picture

I like this app.

garreth — Tue, 06/30/2009 - 22:20

I like this app.

Sigh, Irony thy name is crappy computer

Andelan — Sun, 06/28/2009 - 17:56

My WoW computer is down so I cant get on for the next 2 or 3 weeks, I would love to prove my salt and work on fixing up my UI a little more, but as is I can't really do shit so once I figure out the problem and fix it I certainly will raid, I think the issue lies with my new router, I dont really know Ill ask my dad to fix it up. To everyone that has left comments with constructive criticism I think that if you look at my Armory Page you will find that all my gear is enchanted with the best stuff I could buy,

Question though, the elitist jerks page didnt tell me what I should enchant my chest with, I went for +8 stats (its only 2 less stats and 150 less gold than the +10 variety (150g I dont have too)) but Im starting to think that the +250 mana would be the proper choice for this instance.

Was the investkment on the Tuskarr's Vitality Enchant worth it? it was 150 health and a worthless speed boost since it doesnt stack with my Pursuit of Justice

So please feel free to leave any other comments about my builds, its too bad the armory page doesnt tell you what macros Im rolling with, because I edited the ones I was given on this site to make it less annoying, If anyone wants when I get my comp back up I can post them here.

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Yea go with stats.   Well +10

saedo — Sun, 06/28/2009 - 18:09

Yea go with stats.   Well +10 stats when you can afford it.

Tuskarr's isn't worth it unless you don't have Pursuit of Justice.    So go with Icewalker (hit useless, but the crit is dandy).

Btw, my pally alt has macro's like:

#showtooltip Flash of Light
/use 10  (gloves cause of eng)
/use 13  (these 2 are trinkets)
/use 14
/cast Divine Favor
/cast Divine Illumination
/cast Avenging Wrath
/stopcasting
/cast [target=mouseover,help] [help] [target=player] Flash of Light

Macro's for your Pally,

Andelan — Sun, 06/28/2009 - 18:26

Yea I dont really care about that target=Mouseover,help thing, mostly because I use a combination of Clique/Grid now (I hate Clique but unless I find something that lets me bind my macros to clicks,)

But my Macros all remove the stupid sound that says your Trinkets are on CD and it has a UI Error Clear function on it.

I just thought of something, Does anyone know if you can bind your Keys on Bartender to Clicks as well? Otherwise Ill take out a search on something similar to clique,

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I just turn off Error sounds

saedo — Sun, 06/28/2009 - 18:35

I just turn off Error sounds in the Options.

Also use ErrorMonster to suppress errors.

Why would you need to bind keys to Clique when you can directly bind spells and macros?

Direct Binding,

Andelan — Sun, 06/28/2009 - 18:43

You can bind directly to your Mouse?

saedo's picture

With Clique, you said you

saedo — Sun, 06/28/2009 - 18:49

With Clique, you said you were using it right?'

My setup of it:

Click HealerClick Healer

 

Oh and I keep mouseover in my macros to allow me to target one player while healing another.     Total mouseover without targeting people.

Interesting

Andelan — Sun, 06/28/2009 - 19:00

Heh you can bind macros WOOT! oh and you can pull off that heal another while targeting someone by just binding something to your left button press. The only people I generally target are the tanks. Where I do a target macro I adjust for each fight its a

/target XXXXXX

/targetoftarget

Allows me to target who has aggro. Only useful in fights with multiple Adds.

 

Dragon's picture

Mouseover macros are god on a

Dragon — Mon, 06/29/2009 - 06:33

Mouseover macros are god on a paladin. End of Story :D

saedo's picture

Well depending the fight I

saedo — Sun, 06/28/2009 - 19:10

Well depending the fight I could be targetting tanks, or the boss, or someone completely random.    Heal via grid, target whatever I feel like. lol

I did not like binding something to left button.   I wanted to keep the functionallity of simply targetting without doing anything.   Course, I could turn off clique in certain frames to allow that, but meh.  lol

Prime8's picture

I can't stand mouseover

Prime8 — Mon, 06/29/2009 - 08:07

I can't stand mouseover macros for my healing spells on my pally and shaman. Everything is mouseover with my druid though.

saedo's picture

Whatever floats your boat.   

saedo — Mon, 06/29/2009 - 10:18

Whatever floats your boat.    I only switched over in Wrath and I found it much more responsive cause of all the instant casts I get to do now (Shield, Beacon, Shock, Hands, Cleanse, FoL procs, etc).     Before I guess it was only an occasional BoP/BoSac, Cleanse (was already mouseover), 15 sec shocks.   

Prime8's picture

Yea its just personal

Prime8 — Mon, 06/29/2009 - 12:28

Yea its just personal preferance. Its just holy shock, FoL, and HL that I don't use it for. Beacon, SS, and all that is mouseover. I'm a big advocate of using them for things like cleansing and even taunts when tanking. Something about spells with cast times mouseover just doesn't do it for me.

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If you have not already been

bluetouguyss — Fri, 06/26/2009 - 19:49

If you have not already been picked up for a 10 or 25 man ulduar this week I would urge you to sign up for torvo's saturday raid.  /node/6664   Very chill, in need of more players if we are going to continue to try 25 man content and a good group of core players to run with.  I hope to see you there if you have the time.

ZOMG I NO U

Andelan — Sun, 06/28/2009 - 18:46

I raided with you for all of 2 bosses a couple weeks back, with Kalpurnia, we got to Hodir and you and I were the only ones not failing at the movements >.<

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Well it went much the same

bluetouguyss — Sun, 06/28/2009 - 19:17

Well it went much the same way yesterday unfortunately.  :(  We really could use a pally healer for our group!  if you are interested we will be taking the next few weeks off (4th of july and guild meetup the week after) but then we are back at it!!!  Talk to torvo or I in game and we will try and figure out how we can get you in!

Wow,

Andelan — Sun, 06/28/2009 - 19:23

Alright my comp should be working by then. Hmm, Try having the Ranged DPS stand as close to the boss as possible unless they have the chance to recieve one of those buffs.

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Hai I'm Seraphitalia, another

Dragon — Thu, 06/25/2009 - 14:01

Hai I'm Seraphitalia, another guild Paladin.

Good news, I'm ret so chances are you shouldn't have to worry about me too much. YET

Alt is Intercepter, a warrior tank blowing through heroics like they are going outta style. Get in DFRecruit and help out when people are looking for more.

That being said, I'll read the rest of the comments I missed and your app once I get home.

garreth's picture

Lookin good. Get your

garreth — Thu, 06/25/2009 - 13:31

Lookin good. Get your professions up now ;)  Hodir rep is amazing for gold and shoulder enchants, btw. 

saedo's picture

He wont' need Hodir if he

saedo — Thu, 06/25/2009 - 15:22

He wont' need Hodir if he gets his Inscription prof up.   Do that, and do that fast.

garreth's picture

 Yarr, more for the gold. EZ

garreth — Thu, 06/25/2009 - 15:29

 Yarr, more for the gold. EZ money.

Macros

Andelan — Sun, 06/28/2009 - 17:58

The macros you posted in that illumination thread have been improved on, Ill post them up when I get the chance if you want,

yea, thanks to those damn enchants Im down from 1k gold to 263 or somethin YARGH, There goes my epic flyer for a while. But Ima not really bother to up my hodir rep much after I get my inscription up.

Enchants Finished,

Andelan — Thu, 06/25/2009 - 12:17

I got my enchants now =D I just need to grab a few more items, My gold is almost completely gone again though...

garreth's picture

Get our entire Guild Addon

garreth — Thu, 06/25/2009 - 11:12

Get our entire Guild Addon Pack first: /downfall-guild-raid-addon-pack

I won't rip on you for HealBot yet. You've got a few days to get rid of it and start using Grid.  All of us use it for good reason: It's a unified tool for every single class in raid to do their jobs more effectively.  It's THE tool for end game healing; the tanks use it to figure out who has aggro and the dps use it to figure out who has a raid-crushing debuff on them.  It allows us all to speak the same language and work together faster and easier.

Thoughts on your gear/spec:

  • The point in Divinity is wasted. Adjust some points, as I believe Pursuit of Justice is mandatory for end-game.  
  • Your gear is in terrible shape. Your head, shoulders, legs, boots, gloves and cloak could all use enchants/better enchants.  We're extremely hard on enchants/gemming around here: It is indicative of the level of effort and dedication a person puts into their toon.  Don't use the "I'm waiting for an upgrade" argument on us.  I literally cannot bring you into endgame right now with your gear, while you're "waiting for an upgrade". 'Chant yo' shit.
  • Don't go for socket bonuses.  Int is our main gem (at the moment).  You should have only one 9heal/mp5 gem, and that is to meet your meta.

I'm interested in what healing macros/addons you use outside of HealBot.  What is your experience in end game?  How long have you raided? Do actually enjoy healing or are you just applying as a healer because you think it will get you a raid spot.  How are your keys bound? What do you use to monitor your sacred shield and beacon durations on raid targets?  What do you use to ensure that your judgement does not fall off a target? 

I'm extremely hard on holy pallies. We've had some EPICALLY bad ones. And we've had some pretty good ones.  I'm jaded as fuck when it comes to pally apps. Surprise me.

Response

Andelan — Thu, 06/25/2009 - 11:24

Already Beat you to getting the addons,

As for enchants, I know they are crap Im in the process of grabbing them, My meta gem requires 3 Red gems so thats why I have so many of those crappy purples, -note to self- change those out for orange. Ive raided for about 4 months, I truly do love healing, Its a tough job takes a lot of focus and plus I see some freaking huge numbers. The only reason  my enchants are the way they are at the moment is because Im strapped for cash, or rather was,

That point about Pursuit of Justice is really good, I was kinda confused so I just blasted the point into divinity for the sake of spending a point

As far as my Beacon and Sacred shield go, Healbot tells me when they are about to fade so I just do a

Shift-Right-click is Sacred Shield

and a CTRL-Right-Click is Beacon of Light

 Left click is Holy Light, Shift left is Flash of Light, middle is Hand of Salvation, Right is Holy Shock

Shift Middle is Heavy Frostweave Bandages, (Good for in between phases)

Ctrl-Left is Cleanse. thats all Ive got for the moment

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