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Faction Champions Strategy Guide

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saedo — Fri, 07/03/2009 - 13:50

This is an arena style pvp fight.    Every CC is on pvp durations and will suffer from diminishing returns.  They are susceptible to all forms of CC that is applicable to them, except for Mind Control.   Also, they have an aura which reduced aoe damage by 75%, not not feasible to simply try to aoe them down like trash.

Here are all the possible npcs you'd face: 

Class Alliance NPC Horde NPC
Death Knight Tyrius Duskblade Gorgrim Shadowcleave
Druid (boomkin)
Kavina Grovesong Birna Stormhoof
Druid (resto)
Melador Valestrider Erin misthoof
Hunter (surv)
Alyssia Moonstalker Ruh'kah
Mage (arcane/frost)
Noozle Whizzlestick Ginselle Blightslinger
Paladin (holy)
Baelnor Lightbearer Liandra Suncaller
Paladin (ret)
Velanaa Malithas Brightblade
Priest (disc)
Anthar Forgemender Caiphus the Stern
Priest (shadow)
Brienna Nightfell Vivienne Blackwhisper
Rogue (shadowstep)
Irieth Shadowstep Maz'dinah
Shaman (enh)
Shaamul Thrakgar
Shaman (resto)
Shaabad Broln Stouthorn
Warlock (afflic)
Serissa Grimdabbler Harkzog
Warrior (arms)
Shocuul Narrhok Steelbreaker

In 25 man you'll face 10 of them.   In 10 man you'll face 6 of them.    Typically it seems you'd get 3 healers in the 25 man, 2 healers in the 10 man.

The strat is very wide and varied depending on exactly what combination of npcs you get, and what your raid make up is.    What CDs, CC, interrupts, cleasnes, pvp ability, etc you can muster up.

The only constant is probably, interrupt heals, cleanse CC and stuff on your raid, purge/dispel their Heroism/Bloodlust, bubbles, bops, etc.      And watch your own raid to see what to protect and heal.   And Totem stomp, well no macro works anymore I think, have people manually do them.

Anyways, I'm gonna give a possible strat now.   Remember, this can be totally ineffective depending on what exactly your raid make up is and what NPCs you get.    CC whatever isn't the focus target if you can, possibly trading types of CC when DR is reached.   i.e.   When sheep is on DR, start fearing.    While the old fear gets sheeped.     Coordinate.

Note:  This post has the AI Threat mechanics of the fight:  /FactionChampions#comment-48124

 

First Priorities:

Disc Priest and Resto Druids.   

In either mode, I'd say take out 1-2 healers first.    The Disc Priest can also dispel your CC and also as a clothie have lower hp than any of the other healers.  Burn Disc priest first if he exists.    Burn Resto Druid next if he exists.   

The druid mostly hots everyone up, and thorns.    And as an elemental, he's susceptable to less of your CCs.  But he should be easy to take down as long as 2 healers isn't laying into him.

Second Priorities:

Resto Shaman, Enh Shaman, Warlock, Warriors.

If the resto shaman is your third healer, and you killed Priest and Druid, he can probably just be CC'd the rest of the way through.    You should be able to out dps 1 healer up esp if CC'd.    Otherwise, this is a decent 2nd healer to take down.

Once you have 2 healers down, picking off a dps should be on your mind.

Enh Shaman's biggest annoyance is that he Earth Shocks a lot, messing with your healers, and has those Grounding totems that mess up a lot of your casters/CC.

Warlock's Hellfire can cause havoc on the raid, plus he fears and dots.   Being a clothie he's also one with lower hp.    I'd recommend him after you got through the shamans.

Warrior Bladestorm can cause havoc too.   But he is kitable if you got someone capable of it.   Rotating disarms on him would help too.

Third Priorities:

Rogues and Hunters.

These two are mostly annoyances via pure dps.   Though they can rape you early, if they can be CC'd and get people their bops or something, you can heal through their burst.

Final Priorities:

Basically anything else.   Death Knights, Boomkins, Holy Pallies, Ret Pallies, Mages, Shadow Priests.

If you reach these mobs, as long as most of your raid is still up, you should have a kill.    You're over the hump, and the major threats are gone.

Almost whatever order you want.   In our attempts we've so far been leaving Pallies up, CC'd til the end.

That's all I can think of, good luck!

 

Hard Mode:

Well, they obviously hit harder and have more HP.  But, they've also equipped their PvP trinkets, are better at focus firing, chain CC'ing, and reactions with BoPs and dispels.  

In 10 mans, the tweak we did is instead of knocking off the 2 healers at first, we killed a healer, then a dps.   If that doesn't work, kill off a dps first, cause they are more lethal in this mode.   Again it largely depends on comp, killing off 2 healers like the old way can still work.

In 25 man, we firstly decide to start the pull with a DK doing Hungering Cold on all of them.   This forces them to all (hopefully) pop their pvp trinkets allowing you to CC.

Next off, we decided to kill 3 healers first and always.   We have interrupters (rogue/warrior/etc), one on each to do the kicks and stuff.    Everyone that can, try to totem stomp also.    Finally, more one on one situations for others like our DKs, frost mages, etc kiting their Warrior, DK, Ret Pally around.    Maybe even putting someone on Warlock / Mage to keep kicks on them.   Otherwise, CC whatever else you can.

 

Achievements:

Resiliance Will Fix it! -  Kill the enemy heroes within 60 seconds of each other in 10/25-player mode.

Heh, this seems hard.   I can only think of doing this with minimal CC, and split your dps among them and heal through the entire thing.    Possibly using AoE, well maybe more splash damage aoe things.

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never been there...sounds

Kwondre — Thu, 08/13/2009 - 10:08

never been there...sounds like an interesting fight that will be different each week...or it could just be a clusterfuck train headed right towards the healer.

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I guess you guys can start

saedo — Wed, 08/12/2009 - 12:15

I guess you guys can start looking at this for next week.     It looks chaotic, but you can kick and stuff.   I also heard diminishing returns will occur here, so CC and stuns won't last through the entire fight.     But can prob re-CC them after 15 seconds (?) if no one started dot'd them up already.    Anyways, here's the vid:

IF I HEAR, ANY OF YOU, OPEN Y

Disrupter — Mon, 08/17/2009 - 03:53

IF I HEAR, ANY OF YOU, OPEN YOUR FUCKING BOOK, TO CLICK A FUCKING SPELL, SO IMPORTANT AS COUNTERSPELL I WILL HUNT YOUR ASS DOWN AND KICK YOU IN THE NUTS.

NOT JOKING, FUCKING BIND IT, HOLY FUCK. (garreth moment.. sorry.. but that's what happens when they bring pvp into my pve... stupid fucking blizzard lol.)

 

Who the fuck would make a video and IN IT open their book, slowly page through, slowly move to the counterspell, and then fucking click it, omg. PLEASE tell me none of you do that. /sigh

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Well he explained in his

saedo — Mon, 08/17/2009 - 09:49

Well he explained in his comments it was cause he didn't set up is UI / bindings completely on the PTR.   

I'll assume everyone is using fully functional UIs right now.

I think what's worse is that

Keisjaa — Mon, 08/17/2009 - 07:08

I think what's worse is that he has a TON of buttons on his screen & none are bound to CS(also that he uses the pretty UI & shit with default Unit frames.

 

Looks like it's going to be rather chaotic and fun

i open my spellbook for

Kwondre — Mon, 08/17/2009 - 05:07

i open my spellbook for fireball...Why is that bad???

You're right though, I'm not so much angry that he didn't have CS on his bar...I'm more angry that he made a video showing him not having CS on his bar.

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